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==Region location==
Any word yet on where this region is located in relation to Kanto/Johto/Hoenn? --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''<font color="#CC0018">T</font><font color="#0000C0">M</font>F''']] <sup>[[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|Let's Go Mets]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|Stats]]</sup> 16:57, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[AG186|North of Kanto]]. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 17:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
::Is Sinnoh linked to Kanto just like Johto (making a single land mass) or an island-like region (like [[Hoenn]]) located North? - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 18:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::It's impossible to tell; we don't know if that strip of land to the south ends or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Hey, I just had an idea that I wanted to share on it's location compared to Kanto.  If you look at the map of Sinnoh, you notice that Mt. Coronet keeps going southward, off the map, along with some land.  Now, if you look at the Kanto map, Mt. Moon, as well as parts of land, go northward off the map.  Perhaps Mt. Moon and Mt. Coronet connect, and that's how Kanto and Sinnoh connect?  I don't know if this was confirmed true or false or anything like that, just voicing my idea.--<font color="purple">Shroopliss</font> 22:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Many others have suspected that, but I don't imagine Ash sailed out of Pallet all the way around Sinnoh's northern tip to get to Sandgem. It's likely not connected, just like its real-world counterpart is separate. I wanna see the north of Kanto/Johto regions as much as the next guy, but really, not yet, man. Maybe next gen. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
*Sinnoh is connected to Almia, the whole landmass itself is an island.
~aruagirl

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How does the "old style" map help this article any at all? If anything, the other regions should be updated to look more like new "new style." --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 19:16, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:I agree, it's pointless here. But in my opinion, we should wait until there's a GSDS (if there is one) so that we can just take the Kanto/Johto map from there, then update the Sevii Islands and Hoenn after that. Sinnoh alone is fine in the "new style" until we get more regions updated in-game. Plus I doubt we'd get a DS map of Johto or Kanto accurate to what they'd be in a possible GSDS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 20:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::And besides, why can't you do that? (Hmm, maybe I could try but...) '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''08:41 3 Jun 2008'''''

Now I am curious. First of all, Sinnoh is an island nation, off the north/northeast coast of Kanto, as said in the anime and as shown in the anime promotional map release near The Rise of Darkrai's Japanese release last year.

Also, what is "old style" and "new style"?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:The anime saying Sinnoh is an island actually proves something (I don't think the movie map really does, since like in the games, the southern peninsula is obscured, this time by clouds). Meanwhile, an "old style" map is in the style of the GBA town maps while "new style" is the new DS map style.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I still don't understand, could you maybe shown a comparison? I mean how could the GBA games have DS maps?

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:A user would have to recreate the GBA style maps to reflect the DS map.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 13:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

==NEED to UPDATE==
The map here needs to be updated with the reverse world portal.  Platinum now has the entrance to the reverse world right around or even on top of spear pillar.--[[User:Arceusguy|Arceusguy]] 15:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:Say what?!  Where can this info be found?  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 16:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Has the Platinum map been released yet? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 16:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned that in Platinum, Sinnoh is experiencing a sudden cold climate?[[User:BlueJirachi|<font color="blue">BlueJirachi</font>]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|<font color="gray"><small>WishMaker</small></font>]] 23:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It is the torn world. Reverse World is the upcoming movie.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Map ==

Just wondering. If you open the Sinnoh Map, if you go to a specific location, it summarizes what's there. Should we talk about it here? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 18:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, this goes for other routes and locations as well... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 18:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::That would probably be better located in the articles for the individual locations. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::So, should we talk about it? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#CC0000"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#0000CC"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 19:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== island ==

Ash calls it Sinnoh island.[[User:Abcboy|abcboy]] 06:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== WTF? ==

WTF? I visited Flower Paradise via AR but it won't show on my town map!! How do you get Flower Paradise on the Town Map?
[[User:SilverCharmeleon|SilverCharmeleon]] 21:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:Get there legit. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Distortion World ==
[[Sinnoh#Areas_of_interest]]

I don't think that the [[Distortion World]] is a part of Sinnoh ^^ --[[User:-Samu-|-Samu-]] 16:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, how should we put it, then?[[User:Totodilesentret|Totodilesentret]] 16:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

We really should! I mean, it's not in sinnoh, but the entrance is in Sinnoh!--[[User:The Bulb&#39;s Master|The Bulb&#39;s Master]] 17:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
The distortion world IS a part of Sinnoh!!! How else could it be found under cycling road? It doesn't just materialize at will! It has to have somewhere! It is under the cycling road, as you can catch Giratina there... there is also the fourth lake of Sinnoh. Giratina has a part in the Sinnoh myths. If the lake trio has the three main lakes, and Giratina has the fourth, the distortion world is part of Sinnoh, and should be known as such. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC) [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Road-blocking Pokémon ==
Should we mention that Sinnoh has no road-blocking Pokémon like in all the other regions, like Snorlax, Sudowoodo, and Kecleon? [[User:Gerinych|Gerinych]] 18:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Those Psyduck blocking the path to Celestic aren't road-blockers? '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 18:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yeah, I forgot about them. I guess we can say that they're the only road-blocking Pokémon that you can't catch right then and there. [[User:Gerinych|Gerinych]] 19:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Could this be trivia? ==

Sinnoh is the first region to have all gyms on the mainland. Kanto was Cinnabar Island, then Johto was Cianwood City, Then Hoenn was Dewford Town. They are all islands. But that would only count for in-game because Canalave City is just islands in the anime right?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 07:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

==In-Game Maps==

The in-game maps on this site show Newmoon and Fullmoon Island right next to each other, but in the game there is a space between them....why is this? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 00:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:I've always wondered that myself. Maybe a beta map? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 00:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::You looking at Pt or DP? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 00:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Diamond and Platinum. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 00:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Very odd. Mine also has more space between them. DS Phat, DS Lite, or DSi? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 01:07, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::DS Lite. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 02:30, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== 6 Characters ==

Shouldn't we add in the Trivia section that Sinnoh is the only region in the main games, heck, all of the games, to have 6 letters in it's name? Or maybe add that it's the only one in the main games to have over 5 letters? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 18:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not so keen on this idea. Given the small number of regions, it seems ''too'' trivial. Also, [[Oblivia]]. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::Especially trivial given that we don't know Isshu's English name yet, and NoA could change up the spelling (or even the pronunciation, like with Shinou/Sinnoh) for the English language releases. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 00:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia: City Names ==

Should it be mentioned that Sinnoh is the only main region of the main games to not have a theme for the city names? Kanto has colours, Johto has plants, Hoenn is two words combined into one, and Unova has clouds, but, to my knowledge, Sinnoh has no theme for the city names.[[User:Snipehsheep|Snipehsheep]] 18:09, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
:No, I don't think it's notable. While Kanto, Jhoto, and Unova do appear to have a common theme the Sinnoh one is a bit of a stretch. Besides there is a restriction on trivia right now so nothing can be added anyway. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 18:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
::"Two words combined" is not a theme. Also, we don't add Trivia. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 21:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

In the artwork, why does the Platinum map not contain the Battle Zone, instead showing open plain? Why does the DP map at the bottom of the page have it? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

== Entirety ==

Has anybody anywhere completely mapped out the entirety of Sinnoh? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:17, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

== What does "神奥" translate to? ==
Bulbapedia says it translates to "mysterious", but [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_regions#Sinnoh Wikipedia] says it translates to "god within". Which is the correct one? [[User:Pipcard|Pipcard]] ([[User talk:Pipcard|talk]]) 02:28, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
:I don't know where they got that translation, but it is not fully right. It is a combination of kami 神 (gods) and oku 奥. The last character means 'deep', as in the back of your house. However, it is often associated with the 'deep north' of Japan, which is what Sinnoh is based on. See for instance "The Narrow Road to the Deep North" 奥の細道 by Matsuo Bashō. As such Sinnoh translates to something like "The Deep North of the Gods". Makes even more sense when you consider Arceus and co. [[User:Kitsuimiko|Kitsuimiko]] ([[User talk:Kitsuimiko|talk]]) 20:59, 9 November 2023 (JST)
::"The Mysterious North" could be a good translation too, as the character is sometimes used like that, but the Deep North part is not unimportant. {{unsigned|Kitsuimiko}}

I spoke a little too soon, got my big dictionary out and mysterious is one of the meanings, but I still think the definition I posted earlier is more likely. Sorry for the spam [[User:Kitsuimiko|Kitsuimiko]] ([[User talk:Kitsuimiko|talk]]) 16:00, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

== Map from DP ==

I'm pretty sure the in-game map from DP in the article is from a Hack Rom or shooped:<br>
[[File:Sinnoh DP.png]]<br>
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In my game (retail Pearl version), [[Newmoon Island]] and [[Fullmoon Island]] are 2 spaces away from each other, exactly like in this map, which is listed as Platinum-only:<br>
[[File:Sinnoh.png]]<br>
<br>
And what's worse, the incorrect map is in almost EVERY article regarding a location in Sinnoh. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 16:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

== Sakhalin Territorial Dispute ==

It has been brought to my attention that Sakhalin Island has been mentioned along with the four southern-most islands of the Kuriles as being disputed, Sakhalin has not been disputed since after the end of WWII when the Treaty of San Fransisco was signed(1951). 

I found this on Wikipedia's page on Sakhalin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin#Second_World_War


Does this help?

[[User:Joevco|Joevco]] ([[User talk:Joevco|talk]]) 07:21, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

== DP and Pt maps ==

Is there any point in having both maps on there, to me they both look exactly the same.--[[User:Ditto51|<span style="color:#00FF00">Ditto51/Tom</span>]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|<span style="color:#FF0000">My</span> <span style="color:#0000FF">Talk</span> <span style="color:#FFFF00">Page</span>]]) 09:45, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

== What is the demonym for Sinnoh? ==

I heard it was Sinnohan, but is this true? [[User:Iluvchess|Iluvchess]] ([[User talk:Iluvchess|talk]]) 14:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
:Read the page.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 14:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
::I was Ctrl-F looking for the word "demonym" and didn't see that [[User:Iluvchess|Iluvchess]] ([[User talk:Iluvchess|talk]]) 15:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Can't you just look at the page?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 18:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
::::[[Sinnoh#Adjectival form]]--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 05:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I accidentally added this -> 8:18 5 March 2022 (UTC) and now I can’t removed it because of that vandalism filter. {{unsigned|Turtwig Fan4848}}

== Sinnoh’s former name Hisui is five letters long ==

The trivia section of Sinnoh being the only region with more then 5 letters in it’s English name is still true but it’s former name, Hisui is 5 letters long can somebody add that please? ~~TurtwigFan4848~~ {{unsigned|Turtwig Fan4848}}
:I'm not sure what you mean. Hisui is only 5 letters-- Sinnoh is still the only 6+ letter long region name. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#36597B">cela</span><span style="color:#9072A3">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:48, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
::What I mean is that well Hisui is Sinnoh’s former name right? And it is five letters long like the other regions meaning that while Sinnoh the current name of the region doesn’t have a 5 letter long name it’s former name Hisui does. So what you could put there is “It’s former name Hisui however is 5 letters long” {{unsigned|TurtwigFan4848}}
:::No real point in starting a discussion if you're not going to give people the time to discuss it before just adding it anyway. We don't have to rush to add new trivia as quickly as possible, it doesn't hurt to wait at least a day or two to hear input from other users. Personally, I feel like this is more of a trivia point about Sinnoh than Hisui, and would be better suited for that page, if people were to agree to its inclusion. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 02:41, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
::::Apologies, I meant to say that this would be better suited to add to ''this'' page than Hisui, if people agreed to add it. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 02:45, 6 March 2022 (UTC)