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Possible coincidental origin?

(No idea what to title this section) I know that we know almost absolutely nothing on the actual origins of Reshiram and Zekrom, but ever since noticing that Zekrom is in White and Reshiram is in Black, it sorta brought me to mind of the concept of Yin and yang. This is probably just coincidence and means absolutely nothing, but something I decided to bring up nonetheless. Mudkipchan 00:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

That's been on a lot of people's minds since the game names were out. But with the switched legendaries, maybe we can look more into it.--Pokélova! 00:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
We have very limited information right now, and I think anything we post now will be speculation at best. Jello 00:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
If you look at a Yin and Yang symbol, you'll see that each color has a dot of the opposite color inside. Puceron 01:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.--Pokélova! 02:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Maybe it´s just a coincidence. I think we will have to wait until the release of the games for further details. D.hgss 08:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I was going to write about it and let TT or Werd write about it on the page. I support you, Mudkipchan!-444Zekrom 05:42, 03 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, considering the pair are the "Black Yin" and "White Yang" Pokémon, I think that this is pretty much confirmed and should be added as their origins. --SnorlaxMonster 06:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Dragon

I know that the Daisuke club called them the legendary dragon pokemon, but since we don't have officially published types listed as such, isn't kind of jumping the gun a bit to already list them as dragon types when they quite possibly could have secondary types as well? --Ryuutakeshi 06:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

We're a Wiki Ryuu, we list what information we have as of now. At the moment, we know they're Template:Type2s, so we'll keep it at that until more info becomes available.--Pokélova! 06:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Was it ever actually said they're Dragon-type? Or just dragons? They could be like Gyarados or Charizard...Reign 07:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Prematurely publishing information weakens the credibility of Bulbapedia as a resource. Disinfect 07:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, someones got to edit that bit out because WE DO NOT KNOW THERE OFFICIAL TYPING. Why does everyone just assume that they will be Dragon-type because they were described as "Legendary Dragon Pokemon" like a Pokedex entry would state. Where the --- is a mod. --Yusuke SS 20:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram won't be Black exclusive

I do belive that in the obtain section It shouldent say Black olny because we all know after we encounter the mascot we always encounter the mascot of the twin game later on - unsigned comment from Megamaxxor (talkcontribs)

Patterns and traditions aren't always guarantees. We're getting a female professor this time around, so I rest my case. Also, I don't think you could get Groudon in Sapphire and vice versa.--Pokélova! 13:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
This is only true for GS/HGSS AFAIK. Like PokeLova said, you can't get Dialga in Pearl and Palkia in Diamond, can you? Or Groudon in Sapphire/Kyogre in Ruby? Nope. At any rate, we aren't adding any information like that to the article unless it's 100% confirmed by a reliable source. --ZestyCactus 14:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
That's not true. Charizard can be received in both U.S. Blue and JP Green through starter methods. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
For your kind information, it's obvious that we can get charizard in both versions because it's a starter. Reshiram and Zekrom are not starters + they are legendaries and like previous legendary mascot featured games, they can be obtained in a single game only. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 14:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I was just replying to them saying it was only possible in GS and HGSS. I know it is a starter, and that is how that would happen. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh, oopz. My bad. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 14:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry SS id my first pokmon game and befor I got it I asked a friend witch one I should get becasue of the legndarys he that it wouldent matter because I could get both if I worked at it he told thats the wasy it wokred in past games so I thought he ment all but as it turns out he must have ment G/S--Megamaxxor 14:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the article should state either way until it has been confirmed. Although version mascots aren't normally available in the opposite versions, they are in Gold and Silver, so it's not unheard of. T a r o m o n 19:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I second that, we don't know for sure if he's exclusive to Black at this point and to say he is is just as assumptive as to say he isn't.--J.Harkness 20:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that Suicune while being a legendary mascot for Crystal was also available in Gold, Silver, LeafGreen, FireRed, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, it has appeard far beyond it's own game. EpicShadow 1:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram has to be black exclusive because N captures and uses Reshiram in his team in White, and does the opposite in Black with Zekrom. He is seen flying away on Reshiram/Zekrom at the end of the game.--Dillard70 21:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Physiology for the admins to implement

Reshiram is a white-colored, bipedal Pokémon of indefinable but seemingly draconic basis, with some of the avian features of feathers. Reshiram’s snout is mammalian in appearance, most resembling something vulpine or even canine. Streaming out from the upper side of the snout and outward from the head is a long, voluminous wispy mane, the top of which forms a spike or small head-crest of some sort. Reshiram’s face is fringed with spiky features, with one small, pointed extension of it below the chin.

Reshiram’s neck is long and slender, with a collar-esque protrusion of fur or feathers seeming held in place by two somewhat glass-like neck-bands, with similar bands present on the “wrists” of Reshiram’s forelimbs. Reshiram’s forelimbs are expansive, wing-like appendages or some unusual sort of wings themselves; the beginning portions of the limbs are slender and generally conventionally arm-like, but flare out into a more wing-like, feathered section farther on the limb, sporting four claws on the leading edge. On Reshiram’s chest is a feathered feature most similar in shape to a Silver Wing, with the lower portion protruding outward to a point. Long feathers spread out from Reshiram’s thighs, its feet with large claws---three in front, and the one in the back positioned at an angle somewhat like high heels. Reshiram’s tail is a thick mass of a centermost plume and ribbon-like secondary extensions, surrounded by two large bands.

(Reshiram is some feat to describe, which is why I split the description into two paragraphs.) Steph 16:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


Update note - There's an important feature that most people tend to not notice. Reshiram's 'tail' looks uncannily like a traditional fire torch, only without colour and turned on its side. This feature no doubt is the only sort of physical inclination of the Pokemon's fire type. The central plume being the flame and the rings being the metal barriers. - Comfy Shorts (user)

Also, in a recent trailer, Reshiram was seen shooting flames out of its tail thing, so that should probably go under Physiology or Abilities. Evidence: Towards the end of this video, the 3D versions of Reshiram and Zekrom are seen in their awakening sequence. Reshiram is shooting flames out of his arse, and Zekrom's little motor thing is generating electricity. Tailzfoxy96 01:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

zoroark listing

So, how do we know that Zoroark will come right before Reshiram? Should we not have a ??? beside them?Megadog 00:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

This needs to be changed. CuboneKing 06:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Resistance to ice

If the Dragon/Fire typing is true, wouldn't that mean that, along with Dialga, Palkia, and Kingdra, this is one of the few dragon types that does not suffer double damage from ice?--Grammernatzi 08:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes and yes. The typing has been confirmed, so it take neutral damage from Ice-type moves. Werdnae (talk) 08:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Possible Name Origin?

Does anyone think that the "Re" in Reshiram could be taken from the Chinese 熱 (meaning "heat" or "hot")? 神奇超龍 13:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

It's possible. CuboneKing 23:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
I was looking through names, and came across Rishima, which means 'moonbeam' in Hindi. I find that interesting. (name and definition at http://www.20000-names.com/moon_names.htm ) Temsol (Temsol 00:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)) 7:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
That could work. It could also be from 日 rì​ (sun) and/or 月 yuè (moon). 神奇超龍 06:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Trivia to be added

Reshiram is the only Pokémon to have a Dragon/Fire typing --S2daam 14:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram is also the only Fire type Pokémon without red, yellow, or orange in its color scheme. That could be added as well. -- TusSocks145 02:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
when flames go their hottest they turn white...theres a reason why it's that color other than the yin yang thing...Ataro 03:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually the hottest flames are blue /nitpicking Vienna Waltz 07:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
The term "white-hot" refers to incandescence, the emission of light from a hot body due to its temperature. Dunno if that works or not. Jdthebud 07:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this is trivia or not, but is there a reason Reshiram's and Zekrom's origins are on the legendary Pokemon page and not on their own pages? It seems like it should be on their respective pages somewhere. Ikarishipper900 20:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The origins on these pages are actually different. The origins here refer to the real life counterpart/inspiration or whatever it is the design of these Pokémon is based on. The origin you seem to be talking about is related to the story itself, so they would not appear here. (At least not under the origin's section, which has a different meaning here). Jellotalk 20:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned that Reshiram resembles a wyvern?

It even goes down to feathers (although I can't confirm if the image I found is fake, so it may be good to assume wyverns aren't feathered until a guaranteed source is found). However, every depiction of a wyvern I have found has shown them to have two wings and two legs, like Reshiram --Shadowater 20:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Number

Serebii has just confirmed that Reshiram will be #643 AdamRS92 14:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Warning. You will get loads of people saying "Serebii doesn't confirm anything". Blake Talk·Edits 20:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Moves obtainable by breeding

Same deal as with Zekrom. No eggs means no egg moves. --AndyPKMN 11:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Clouds?

Reshiram and its counterpart Zekrom are based on the concept of yin and yang. Appearance wise, it resembles a mix of animals, including a bird, a canid such as a fox or a wolf, and a Wyvern . The crest on its head and its feathers are references to clouds as well as white fire, which can burn up to temperatures of 1,500 °C (2,730 °F). To further this connection with fire and combustion, its tail resembles a rocket engine.

Where are you getting clouds from Resh's crest? It looks more like a smoke trail than a cloud.

Reshiram and its counterpart Zekrom are based on the concept of yin and yang. Appearance wise, it resembles a mix of animals, including a bird, a canid such as a fox or a wolf, and a Wyvern . The crest on its head and its feathers resembles a smoke trail as well as white fire, which can burn up to temperatures of 1,500 °C (2,730 °F). To further this connection with fire and combustion, its tail resembles a rocket engine.

--Mackinz of SoulSilver 14:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I always thought it's tail looked more like a torch.

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