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:::::I also think this page could need some work in that regard. Older versions of this page have mentioned that things like the Slow Exp group aren't always included in all definitions of pseudo-legendaries. As it stands now things like ''Pseudo-legendary Pokémon (Japanese: 600族 600 club)'' would have to be changed if the policy is to abide to the strict definition given here as it would mean a break with the Japanese definition. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 10:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | :::::I also think this page could need some work in that regard. Older versions of this page have mentioned that things like the Slow Exp group aren't always included in all definitions of pseudo-legendaries. As it stands now things like ''Pseudo-legendary Pokémon (Japanese: 600族 600 club)'' would have to be changed if the policy is to abide to the strict definition given here as it would mean a break with the Japanese definition. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 10:44, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::Japanese fanon isn't inherently more correct than English fanon. The only official acknowledgement uses a phrase translated as "late bloomers," which alludes to the shared attributes other than BST. Archaludon is only the second stage in its family, levels up at a medium fast rate, and is evolved through the use of an item; it is not a "late bloomer" in either the colloquial or archetypal interpretation of the phrase. --[[User:Apopheniac|Apopheniac]] ([[User talk:Apopheniac|talk]]) 16:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | ::::::Japanese fanon isn't inherently more correct than English fanon. The only official acknowledgement uses a phrase translated as "late bloomers," which alludes to the shared attributes other than BST. Archaludon is only the second stage in its family, levels up at a medium fast rate, and is evolved through the use of an item; it is not a "late bloomer" in either the colloquial or archetypal interpretation of the phrase. --[[User:Apopheniac|Apopheniac]] ([[User talk:Apopheniac|talk]]) 16:33, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::I agree. My main point was mainly to highlight that the definition of pseudo-legendary isn't as clear-cut as some people above made it out to be, given that it started as a fan term (but the grouping has been acknowledged by TPC as you said). This page also had a bunch of other requirements listed in the past that had to be removed when they no longer were true. I would prefer if the page better reflected that the definition of pseudo-legendary isn't as set in stone as the page makes it out to be. There are plenty of English speakers who also only consider the BST requirement and it is weird of Bulbapedia to try to take ownership of the term as it stands. But regardless, if the three requirements will stand absolute in this article then it is objectively wrong to put ''Pseudo-legendary Pokémon (Japanese: 600族 600 club)'' at the start of the title since those two are no longer interchangeable. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 17:11, 23 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::[https://www.facebook.com/1914558152204438/posts/upcoming-releaseas-some-of-you-might-know-there-are-certain-times-where-late-blo/2425339907792924/ The original post introducing the collection] even gave a brief explanation: | :::::::[https://www.facebook.com/1914558152204438/posts/upcoming-releaseas-some-of-you-might-know-there-are-certain-times-where-late-blo/2425339907792924/ The original post introducing the collection] even gave a brief explanation: | ||
:::::::''As some of you might know, there are certain times where Late Bloomers excel in life late into their ages. | :::::::''As some of you might know, there are certain times where Late Bloomers excel in life late into their ages. | ||
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:::::::''Also in this collection come favourite late bloomers such as Beldum, Deino, Gible, Bagon, and Jangmo-o. Not forgetting their final evolution forms Metagross, Hydreigon, Garchomp, Salamence, and Kommo-o'' | :::::::''Also in this collection come favourite late bloomers such as Beldum, Deino, Gible, Bagon, and Jangmo-o. Not forgetting their final evolution forms Metagross, Hydreigon, Garchomp, Salamence, and Kommo-o'' | ||
:::::::So the primary criterion would be the slow experience gain and the high level at which they fully evolve, and then indirectly how they “excel” once they fully evolve.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC) | :::::::So the primary criterion would be the slow experience gain and the high level at which they fully evolve, and then indirectly how they “excel” once they fully evolve.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
== Users (SV DLC Part 2, Continued) == | == Users (SV DLC Part 2, Continued) == | ||
Welp, missed this the first time through. Geeta runs Dragapult if rematched at BB Academy (Dragapult and Chesnaught replace Veluza and Gogoat). [[User:RNGSOMEONE|RNGSOMEONE]] ([[User talk:RNGSOMEONE|talk]]) 03:28, 17 December 2023 (UTC) | Welp, missed this the first time through. Geeta runs Dragapult if rematched at BB Academy (Dragapult and Chesnaught replace Veluza and Gogoat). [[User:RNGSOMEONE|RNGSOMEONE]] ([[User talk:RNGSOMEONE|talk]]) 03:28, 17 December 2023 (UTC) | ||