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Thanks for the help -trom.If it possible to add.I recall the new diamond and pearl anime used to air on sundays mornings on tv2 at around 7:30 2years back airing about 30 episodes.Sorry for the slack details.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 11:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:That was mostly noted already. Also, don't copy infobox templates directly from the source code. That's a major fail... although not quite as big a fail as a certain City Council right now.... but we'll leave them out of this ;) &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 11:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Pokemon aired at 7.40 am on tv2 according to this.
http://tvnz.co.nz/pokemon/diamond-and-pearl-2070513
--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 02:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

=== Anything else needed here? ===

Trom do you think there anything missing or needs to be added - thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 21:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:After my finals I'm gonna start researching a ''Pokémon in New Zealand'' article for {{bp|Project Globe}}. This article will eventually be merged into that. I don't think it needs any further information for the time being. It mentions all Pokémon anime-related information that I knew about and a snippet of general history. Readers can refer to Wikipedia if they want to know more about the channel. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

==NEW ZEALAND FANS PLZ==
So I remember my first encounter with the franchise was in 1999. I know the anime was out then. It aired daily, but I can't remember if it was before or after school. It was initially on TV2. I know it was at 4pm in 2000. Or 2001. It aired on TV3 back then. Went up until Goldenrod, then hiatus, then back to TV2 daily after school. Went up until the end of Johto on that timeslot. After that I lost track.

As for the games... I didn't have one until Diamond. Blue and Yellow were around in 1999. GS came soon after, Crystal came out just before my Year 7 camp, so that would have been winter 2002. When do NZ games usually come out? I remember RS in 2003. FRLG at the end of 2004.

TCG. I never followed this, but I know my friend had a set. It would have been one of the first sets. Is the TCG still for sale here? I collected some sort of sticker... you could get six in a pack for $1. Anyone (from any country?) know these? I might still have them somewhere, it would be interesting to know if they are a multinational thing.

Everyone moved on to Yu-Gi-Oh! in 2003. And then I went to high school and we never talked of these years again. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 08:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your info trom I will be using it.I have this flag of Nz File:NewZealandflag.gif‎
.Trying to put it in info box but do not know how --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 02:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

::You might want to upload it as .png here:[[File:New_Zealand_Flag.png]] since the infobox seems to be only taking .png filenames. After that, it should automatically appear in the infobox. Hope that helps. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 02:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I have now put on a another with png but still not there.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 02:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:Click on the clock up by your username when looking at the page to clear the cache. That'll make it show up, but you might want to upload a slightly smaller flag . . . [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 02:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

::Yeah, I can see the changes now after clearing the cache. You might want to resize and upload it again as 100x50 px though. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 02:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

sweet.Resized and on sandbox.Thanks
--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 03:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

How about an Australia/New Zealand combo article? Since the two countries are so close together...--[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 09:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
: *hovers cursor over block option* Er... jokes :P The only way we'd be able to have a combined article would be if all the release information was the same, and I'm not so sure about that. Despite what most of the world thinks, the two countries are indeed quite different. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 09:49, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be patriotic to the ausie's but I dont like the idea of having united article of australia and New zealand.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 21:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm from New Zealand and I'm positive the anime aired before 1998 as I wasn't 12 when it aired. I know this because I was still living with my real mother when it aired and I moved into a foster home when I was almost 10.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 08:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt it could have aired any earlier than '98, though, considering the anime debuted in Japan in early '97 (and the anime didn't debut in the 'States until 1998 either) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 08:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::It would have been the very end of 1998, but afaik Pokémon didn't reach mega popularity until 1999.  &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 23:14, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Canada ==

Why does this have information about Canada? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:58, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
:My guess is he copy & pasted the Canada article for all the templates and article layout, etc and will gradually replace the Canada stuff with New Zealand info. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 23:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes youve hit barrell on the head.I copyed the entire canadian article and am in the process of taking out all the canadanian info and put in info related to nz.Ive even asked a admin before i did it.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 01:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

== This article ==

This is pretty well-written, but could use more unique information to make it stand out from the other Project Globe articles (and, imo, to justify having an article about an English-speaking country). What does NZ have that nowhere else does? Are there any toys, books, magazines, etc that have ''only'' been released in New Zealand? What kind of event Pokémon specifically have been available? Etc, etc. This article has a lot of potential - it just needs more unique info to take it from good to exceptional. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 01:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:AFAIK nothing specific. I did have a Pokémon sticker collection (of stickers that I haven't seen on Bulbapedia), so that may have been NZ-only, but I wouldn't doubt that everything here is marketed in either Australia or the US. I'll try and get pics, so you can determine whether you've seen them elsewhere. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yo for the Pokémon video/DVD releases, are they the same as the Australian ones or the North American ones or unique? Might be worth mentioning... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 05:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Movies ==

I have drafted a paragraph relating to the movies and their New Zealand releases, noting that [[M06|Jirachi Wishmaker]] has yet to receive a New Zealand release, (it may have aired on Cartoon Network, I don't know as I don't have Sky) and mentioning the recent airing of [[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]. Here is that paragraph:

''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', ''[[M02|The Power of One]]'' and ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]'' were screened in theatres, while [[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]] and [[M05|Pokémon Heroes]] were released straight to video. ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'' and ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'' have not been released in New Zealand, however ''Destiny Deoxys'' was aired on TV2 in April 2010. ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' have all been released on DVD.

Would anyone like to add information related to Sky or should I just add the paragraph as is? --[[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 12:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Nope, that all sounds good and accurate. I indeed watched Destiny Deoxys when it was on (I can't keep track of time) and I have those last 4 on DVD myself. But I didn't know the first 3 were released in theatres down here.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:heartgold color light;">''Pokélova''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:soulsilver color light;">''(Talk)''</span>]] 15:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::I saw it on tv2 about 5 weeks back ,didn't watch it cause can't stand the new movies.Don't think its been released for sale though.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 06:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's likely to have been Thursday 8 April, given my holiday plans. If there's one thing I'm good at remembering, it's dates I did stuff. If anyone wants a specific breakdown of why it's that date, email me or something :) &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== “That’s different” ==

No it’s not. If one name is required to be in full all the time, then all names therefore would be--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:It's case by case. Not everything needs to be written in full/shortened. It's okay to refer to Ash Ketchum as just Ash, but seasons/series always use the full title.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::That’s not required though. You can’t say it’s different just because it’s different. You need to cite text explaining why. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you can revert it--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:11, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Because it's a title... titles always gets referred to by their full name... A name and a title are two different things.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Oh, so people who call Animaniacs “Animaniacs“ is doing it wrong then? Steven Spielberg Presents Animaniacs should be what it’s called at all times? What about when people call The Force Awakens just by that name instead of Star Wars: The Force Awakens?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::You're clearly just grasping at straws. We're a wiki. We're going to have a certain style. It's that simple.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 17:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::What straws am I grasping at? “Titles always get referred to by their full name” I can show several articles where “Pokemon the Movie” is missing from the movie titles of those that have them--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::In that case, it would be redundant, because of course it's going to be a movie. Here, we're talking about different seasons for different seasons. There needs to be a further distinguishment. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::What other “Kalos Quest” is there going to be?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:29, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Given the current format of the anime, we don't know what the anime is going to do anymore. Plus, [[S09|Battle Frontier]] is already precedent for an entire season being spent back in an old region. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::No, I mean the ''NAME'' Kalos Quest. I notice neither of you have actually rebutted my points or even supported yours. Just gone on unrelated tangents--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::For all we know, we ''could'' have another Kalos Quest-like title. Or perhaps there'll be a non-anime product that'll have "Kalos Quest" in the title. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::I will admit you have a point about the "Pokémon the Movie" part, but we already have paragraphs that mention multiple movies. It will be super-redundant to keep all of those tags in there. Plus, movies are mentioned more often in articles than seasons. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Movies being mentioned more is irrelevant. It’s not a competition, it’s a universal grammatical standard. This also doesn’t explain how mentioning the full season name in that single instance was “required”--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 17:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}It's like I said before, perhaps there'll be a non-anime product that'll have "Kalos Quest" in the title. Movie titles, unlike season titles, are very unique and don't really need extra tags for disambiguation purposes. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:And when I say season titles are not as unique, I'm especially talking about things like [[S10|Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl]], [[S14|Pokémon: Black & White]], [[S17|Pokémon the Series: XY]], and [[S20|Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]. The disambiguation templates speak for themselves. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::KnightGalarie, I think you're kind of looking at it the wrong way, insisting that because some things are shortened everything should be fair game. You want that to be "consistent".
::But let's think about what would happen with your "consistency". If we can shorten any anime season, then we'd have things like [[XY]] or [[Sun & Moon]] (and several others) which are ''very'' ambiguous.
::So, since we cannot have that, then in order for seasons to have *a* consistency, they should be titled in full. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)