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:No, he means controversies outside of the fandom. Controversies inside the fandom are usually on the articles' pages, this stuff's about people who likely never played a Pokémon game and are just yelling about it being horrible because they're a bunch of not-our-generation people. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 21:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, he means controversies outside of the fandom. Controversies inside the fandom are usually on the articles' pages, this stuff's about people who likely never played a Pokémon game and are just yelling about it being horrible because they're a bunch of not-our-generation people. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 21:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


well, now that i know that he was Indeed meaning that we should mention only non-fandom sources, I'll go back to my original statement of "umm... My relative, as I have said Before, IS outside of the fandom since she doesn't really play the Pokemon Games. So i figured that that should be sufficient enough for this to warrant a mention."
well, now that i know that he was Indeed meaning that we should mention only non-fandom sources, I'll go back to my original statement of "umm... My relative, as I have said Before, IS outside of the fandom since she doesn't really play the Pokemon Games. So i figured that that should be sufficient enough for this to warrant a mention."
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This episode has created a guiness world record for giving seizures to 685 children. Watch it in youtube AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! I think this should also be added in the controversies. Is not it?[[User:Mccoyzn|Mccoyzn]] ([[User talk:Mccoyzn|talk]]) 03:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
This episode has created a guiness world record for giving seizures to 685 children. Watch it in youtube AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! I think this should also be added in the controversies. Is not it?[[User:Mccoyzn|Mccoyzn]] ([[User talk:Mccoyzn|talk]]) 03:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:That was an actual occurrence, not controversy. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 03:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:That was an actual occurrence, not controversy. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 03:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
== Lawsuits ==
The article is only covering lawsuits that were filed against the creators/owners of the pokemon franchise there are lawsuits that they have filed against others in regards to their franchise like recently a cafe manager was sued by TPC for using their IP for a party without their permission shouldn't that be covered on the article as well? --[[User:0551E80Y|0551E80Y]] ([[User talk:0551E80Y|talk]]) 14:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
== Lavender Town ==
Just curious... is anyone else thinking there should be a section for all of the controversy over the "original" [[Lavender Town]] theme? [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 02:56, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:What's the story? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:28, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
::Either Google "Lavender Town Syndrome" and read the Creepypasta article, or take it from me. Apparently, not long after Red and Green were released in Japan two decades ago, when child/young teen players reached Lavender Town and listened to its theme music with headphones, adverse effects were induced such as hemorrhages, nose bleeds, strokes, seizures, and even suicides. It could all be a myth, but extensive studies have shown that the music does in fact contain binaural beats, which are often used for things such as hypnosis to manipulate human actions. Also, if one were to amplify the song and use a spectrogram to view the frequencies and sound waves, these beats can be heard by anyone, no matter how old they are. These beats are arranged to form the shape of the ghost sprite from Pokémon Tower, as well as another set of beats arranged in a way that spells "LEAVE NOW", using the different forms of {{p|Unown}} as letters. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 19:26, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:::Is there actually any truth behind any of this though? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:45, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
::::There's no way to know for sure, but it's very likely... all of the aforementioned reports all happened around the same time vicinity, and all of the discovered affected people were players of Pokémon, and their last location in Red/Green was Lavender Town. The tune was then studied, and the aforementioned binaural beats were found within the song, and further examined to figure out what they subliminally provoke listeners to do. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 23:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::Pretty sure this is an untrue urban legend.[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 01:09, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::Look, the subject of this section isn't whether or not the myth is true, it's whether or not it deserves to be included in this article. If you think it doesn't, then that settles it; we just won't include it. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 01:25, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Then it shouldn't be included, because it isn't true. It could get a page on this wiki under Fandom. Also, why the hostility? [[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 01:30, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Oh that came across as hostile? So sorry, wasn't trying to be. And there's no way of knowing for sure if it isn't true, so there's no need to be presumptuous. And I'm fine with it not having a section on this page, I just wanted to know what everyone else thought. [[Special:Contributions/Mikoro|<font face="Kristen ITC" size="2" color="#FFA500">the great</font>]] [[User:Mikoro|<font face="Wide Latin" size="2" color="#DAA520">MIKORO</font>]] ([[User talk:Mikoro|talk to me]]) 02:06, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::Some of the things on this page stem from misconceptions (Nazi imagery) or personal beliefs/"panic" (religion...). By that token, if there was real panic or something, then it might be notable. But from what's been discussed above, I wouldn't bet it wasn't just a bull**** story put together/made up well after the fact of the games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:20, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::There is no proof that it happened. This was just one of those game Creepypastas that people made on the internet. [[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 04:43, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::This has been discussed to death on [[Talk:Lavender Town|Lavender Town's talk page]]. It's just a rumor with no credible proof that there was an "original" Lavender tune.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:24, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
== Citation needed ==
I recently added the "Citation Needed"  to some of the facts on the article. They haven't been sourced so what should happen to the information? Should it get removed?[[User:Sly Fox|Sly Fox]] ([[User talk:Sly Fox|talk]]) 15:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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