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* "<nowiki>are the secondary [[paired version]]s of [[Generation VI]]</nowiki>" implies that every subsequent generation has had "secondary paired versions" (a phrase that is being used to represent both remakes and sequels), which is incorrect. Why not just copy and customize the text from the intros of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}? | * "<nowiki>are the secondary [[paired version]]s of [[Generation VI]]</nowiki>" implies that every subsequent generation has had "secondary paired versions" (a phrase that is being used to represent both remakes and sequels), which is incorrect. Why not just copy and customize the text from the intros of {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}? | ||
* "Both games were revealed {{tt|during|in}} a worldwide announcement by the official Pokémon {{tt|websites,|remove comma}} on May 7, 2014. The paired versions will be released worldwide {{tt|during|in}} November 2014." | * "Both games were revealed {{tt|during|in}} a worldwide announcement by the official Pokémon {{tt|websites,|remove comma}} on May 7, 2014. The paired versions will be released worldwide {{tt|during|in}} November 2014." | ||
* Change "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire]]</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>{{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}</nowiki>" —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> | * Change "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire]]</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>{{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}</nowiki>" —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> 05:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:Hello, I have made some changes as you have requested. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | :Hello, I have made some changes as you have requested. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:59, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks, trom. However, it says that November 2014 is the release ''date'', but I think this should say ''release period''. Also, "PAccording to the press release which announced the games" should be "According to the press release that announced the games". Some users seem to think that ''which'' can replace ''that'' in this instance because I see it often, but this is folly. For instance, the phrasing "The book, which I read last night, was exciting" must use ''which'' and not ''that'', while "The book that I read last night was exciting" is the opposite (but may also omit ''that'' entirely). —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> | ::Thanks, trom. However, it says that November 2014 is the release ''date'', but I think this should say ''release period''. Also, "PAccording to the press release which announced the games" should be "According to the press release that announced the games". Some users seem to think that ''which'' can replace ''that'' in this instance because I see it often, but this is folly. For instance, the phrasing "The book, which I read last night, was exciting" must use ''which'' and not ''that'', while "The book that I read last night was exciting" is the opposite (but may also omit ''that'' entirely). —<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="#fff">The</font>]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">Best</font>]]</span></font> (UTC) 09:26, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Folly indeed. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | :::Folly indeed. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
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::Don't mind me, but may I ask why you don't like that template ?? --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:blue">Pika</span>]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:red">Tepig</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|<span style="color:green">999</span>]]✓</sc> 09:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ::Don't mind me, but may I ask why you don't like that template ?? --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:blue">Pika</span>]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:red">Tepig</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|<span style="color:green">999</span>]]✓</sc> 09:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Poké Transporter == | ==Poké Transporter== | ||
If these games use the Poké Transporter, like [[Pokémon X and Y|X and Y]], will it be worth noting that these are the first remakes to be compatible with the originals, if indirectly? | If these games use the Poké Transporter, like [[Pokémon X and Y|X and Y]], will it be worth noting that these are the first remakes to be compatible with the originals, if indirectly? | ||
[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions]] → [[Pal Park]] → [[Generation IV]] → [[Poké Transfer]] → [[Generation V]] → [[Poké Transporter]] → [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]] | [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 14:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions]] → [[Pal Park]] → [[Generation IV]] → [[Poké Transfer]] → [[Generation V]] → [[Poké Transporter]] → [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]] | [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 14:46, 8 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:It is currently unknown if they will use the Poke Transporter. <!--Or is it?--> --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:blue">Pika</span>]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:red">Tepig</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|<span style="color:green">999</span>]]✓</sc> 09:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | :It is currently unknown if they will use the Poke Transporter. <!--Or is it?--> --<sc>✓[[User:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:blue">Pika</span>]][[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color:red">Tepig</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikatepig999|<span style="color:green">999</span>]]✓</sc> 09:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
::That wasn't my question. I said ''if'' they do, will this be worth noting? [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 15:27, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ::That wasn't my question. I said ''if'' they do, will this be worth noting? [[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] ([[User talk:Glitchipedia|talk]]) 15:27, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Even if they don't, they'll still be compatible with the originals via Poke Transporter to XY, then trade to ORAS. It's still speculative to say it yet, but as soon as either Poke Transporter or trade capability is revealed, I would think it'd be notable that they're the ''only'' ones (not just the first, since first is of debatable notability for some things). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | :::Even if they don't, they'll still be compatible with the originals via Poke Transporter to XY, then trade to ORAS. It's still speculative to say it yet, but as soon as either Poke Transporter or trade capability is revealed, I would think it'd be notable that they're the ''only'' ones (not just the first, since first is of debatable notability for some things). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Press Release Description == | ==Press Release Description== | ||
The second paragraph "According to the press release that announced the games, the new titles will to take players through a dramatic story within a spectacular new world." should be changed to reflect that this is not a new game as "spectacular new world" implies. | The second paragraph "According to the press release that announced the games, the new titles will to take players through a dramatic story within a spectacular new world." should be changed to reflect that this is not a new game as "spectacular new world" implies. | ||
The official website also gives a far more accurate description of the game http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-pokemon-alpha-sapphire/ | The official website also gives a far more accurate description of the game http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-omega-ruby-and-pokemon-alpha-sapphire/ | ||
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::::Its ok, like Dawn always says, No Need To Worry. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ::::Its ok, like Dawn always says, No Need To Worry. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
== 'Oras' is the Lithuanian word for 'Weather' == | =='Oras' is the Lithuanian word for 'Weather'== | ||
The name of the games is likely a play on the letters theme started with XY (ie. the Greek letters 'Α' and 'Ω'), and the Lithuanian word for weather, [https://translate.google.com/#en/lt/weather Oras] -- weather being one of the prominent elements of RSE. Sounds like a interesting fact to add to the Trivia section. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 13:07, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | The name of the games is likely a play on the letters theme started with XY (ie. the Greek letters 'Α' and 'Ω'), and the Lithuanian word for weather, [https://translate.google.com/#en/lt/weather Oras] -- weather being one of the prominent elements of RSE. Sounds like a interesting fact to add to the Trivia section. --[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 13:07, 9 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
== No evident that Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are in the Generation VI == | ==No evident that Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are in the Generation VI== | ||
We should at least wait for the announcement of cross-game communication of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire to be sure if they are indeed Generation VI. And according to this: | We should at least wait for the announcement of cross-game communication of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire to be sure if they are indeed Generation VI. And according to this: | ||
:"A generation, in terms of the Pokémon franchise, is a subset of the series that debuted or is set around the same time, focusing on the same region, and featuring the same Pokémon." | :"A generation, in terms of the Pokémon franchise, is a subset of the series that debuted or is set around the same time, focusing on the same region, and featuring the same Pokémon." | ||
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Moved here by [[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 09:48, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | Moved here by [[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 09:48, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:It's totally safe to assume that Hoenn remakes aren't introducing a new generation, especially when there are lots of unreleased Gen VI stuff and the XY anime series isn't even in the halfway.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 10:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | :It's totally safe to assume that Hoenn remakes aren't introducing a new generation, especially when there are lots of unreleased Gen VI stuff and the XY anime series isn't even in the halfway.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 10:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
::It is safe, but an encyclopaedia is obligated to only display information that is evidental. I won't have a problem if we put up "probably" or "highly speculated" instead of "part of". -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
It is safe, but an encyclopaedia is obligated to only display information that is evidental. I won't have a problem if we put up "probably" or "highly speculated" instead of "part of". -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | :::It's obviously generation VI. That is a guaranteed fact. Sure, it hasn't been stated, but it doesn't need to be stated. Generation VI is the current generation. Each generation starts with a brand new game in a brand new region with brand new Pokémon. It won't start with a remake. It's only logical that this is a Generation VI game. Also, it's being released on the same generation console as other Gen VI games which further backs up this point. It's Gen VI and although it hasn't been stated, there is enough evidence to make that claim. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 12:36, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
:It's obviously generation VI. That is a guaranteed fact. Sure, it hasn't been stated, but it doesn't need to be stated. Generation VI is the current generation. Each generation starts with a brand new game in a brand new region with brand new Pokémon. It won't start with a remake. It's only logical that this is a Generation VI game. Also, it's being released on the same generation console as other Gen VI games which further backs up this point. It's Gen VI and although it hasn't been stated, there is enough evidence to make that claim. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 12:36, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | ::::That way, we will have to refine our definitions of a generation. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | ||
That way, we will have to refine our definitions of a generation. -[[User:Iosue|Iosue]] ([[User talk:Iosue|talk]]) 12:52, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||