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-| <big><big><big>'''Remember, {{color2|000|Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk pages}} are meant for discussing the article itself, not the subject. To post all your wild theories and random questions about the content of the games, see <span class="plainlinks">[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 {{color|1b45c1|this forum section}}]</span>.'''</big></big></big>
-By the way, everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK to any and all information concerning HGSS. Cool it. We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows.
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 ==Previous discussion==
-* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)
+* [[Talk:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)
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 :Which would be really weird as the "official" release of the games is in just 3 days. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 19:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 ::Yeah, I saw that earlier today. The only way we will be able to know will be in a couple of days. Is anyone getting the Japanese release? [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:04, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+:::a lot of people around here are getting the Jap release, dont you worry. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 19:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+::::Cool. In two days, we shall know for sure then. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+== Unnecessary Information in the article ==
+This is what I read under the "Aesthetic Changes" in the article:
+''"The DS's 3D capabilities are utilized in selecting the starter Pokémon."''
+No offense, but that's pretty useless and unnecessary to say because the DS's 3D capabilities are utilized through out the '''ENTIRE GAME''', excluding battles.
+Believe it or not, the 4th Gen graphics engine is fully 3D. Want proof? This is what happens when you hack the camera angle (yes, there's a camera angle):
+http://localhostr.com/files/46a3b6/Crazy%20Zoom.png
+So basically, it's unnecessary to say that the DS's 3D capabilities are used when selecting the starter Pokemon, simply because the entire game is running under a 3D engine.[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+:Great point, but lets see what others thing about it. I agree with you, but someone will say that's not normal gameplay.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 22:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+::I agree too. How is this not normal gameplay, btw? The game is still rendered like this, even if it isn't zoomed in/diff angle. [[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400;">'''Zesty'''</span><span style="color:#3CB371;">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 22:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+:::You're missing the point of that. In D/P, the 3D engine was simply for environment. Platinum it used it even more for the [[Distortion World]]. They never used the spin-around-and-wobble-when-stopping 3D capabilities when choosing the starter. All they did for Platinum was have the briefcase there and the Poké Balls hop when chosen. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 22:56, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+:::: That shouldn't matter. It's not any special effects, all of those fancy camera angle stuff in the Distortion World was already programmed into the 3D engine. Platinum's graphic engine is exactly the same as Diamond/Pearl's, the only differences being the changed tiles. The briefcase in D/P/Pt is a fully programed character model, they just spent a little more time with model rendering in HG/SS.[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 23:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+:::::It's still different. If you hadn't realized, we mention things like that. From Platinum:
+*When entering new areas, the location "labels" on the top-left corner have been redesigned, much like they were between Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire and Pokémon Emerald.
+*All gyms now only have Pokémon of their type specialty.
+*When entering new areas, the location "labels" on the top-left corner have been redesigned, much like they were between Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire and Pokémon Emerald.
+*Pikachu and Pachirisu are now featured when entering Wi-Fi.
+Non of those matter much, but we still mention them. Those are the most minor of the changes from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+: Yeah, but none of those are related to the graphics engine. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say something like, "When selecting your starter Pokémon, the game shows a detailed close up of the machine with fully animated models" or something. Instead of saying something that could apply for the entire game. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 23:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
+::"When selecting stater Pokémon, the game fully utilizes the 3D graphics engine." would work. I still think the original sentence is fine though. "The DS's 3D capabilities are utilized in selecting the starter Pokémon." states that the 3D engine is used, and indicates that it wasn't before. That ''should'' be perfectly fine, but I guess you think not. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 00:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+::: Well of course it wasn't before, the Gameboy Color was 8-bit :/. Since this game is a remake, not a 3rd version type thing, it would make sense to say something like, "The Johto and Kanto regions are now fully rendered in 3D thanks to the graphics engine that Diamond & Pearl introduced," because HG/SS is not 2D. Not only is the starter selection 3D, but the entire game is 3D. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 00:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+::::Oh, that makes sense. I was thinking along the lines of a third version game, not a remake. Alright. Yes, I agree that it should be changed. "This game utilizes the DS's 3D graphics engine." would work fine. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 00:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+::::: Minor mistake you made. The DS does not have it's own 3D engine. Basically, the DS has 3D capabilities, and so Diamond & Pearl's graphics engine uses advantage of that. Notice how Super Mario 64 DS and Gen IV Pokemon games are both 3D, yet feature entirely different graphics. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 00:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+::::::The DS cartridge doesn't have the capabilites of holding all of the graphics. The point of the cartridge, like CD Roms for a computer, is to hold all of the coding that will create the graphics when the coding is used by the machine, in this case the DS. That's why something has to be "capable" of having those graphics, or the program wouldn't work right, like when an old computer tries to use new software that isn't compatible with the old system. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 00:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
+== Future Tag !!! ==
+Hey guys, please remove the tag "his article is about an expected future event."
+Game is now released. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 15:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+It's released at midnight? [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 15:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+Yeah I'm pretty sure the 12th is tomorrow. Then again what time is it in japan right now? [[User:Derian|&#91;&#91;Derian&#93;&#93;]] 16:33, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+Currently it's gone midnight on the 12th September 2009 in Japan. The counter was counting to midnight on the 11/12th in Japan
+And also on the subject of the tag, do we have a recently released tag?[[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 16:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+Would it be worth having a tag to denote a non-English based territory release? Considering the primary audience of this wiki is Western based would it not be prudent to wait for it to have the Recently Released tag applied when it reached the US or Europe? [[User:Ukgamer66|Ukgamer66]] 19:28, 11 September 2009 (GMT)
+It's lunch time on the 12th here in Australia. That doesn't mean it's out yet though. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 01:21, 12 September 2009 (UTC))
+== Music Changer ==
+Seems noteworthy to me, but I've just created an account and seem to lack editing permissions to add this. HGSS have a music changer that reverts the in-game music from the remade tracks to those the the various games original releases as documented in the following video;
+'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JcI5LQvYc]'''
+Pretty cool and new change to the games
+== Day of; Admins, Please Unlock ==
+The games are out, we should be allowed to edit this page now...[[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 20:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+: the page will unlock itself when the offical date (9-12-09) comes around. we've waited months, we can wait 1 more day. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|<sub><span style="background:#FF8040"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">Shiny</span></span></sub>]][[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 20:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+:: It's September 12th in Japan. The games are already out. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 20:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+:::Whoops my bad. I guess when the UTC chances to the 12th it will unprotect, if it's not already. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|<sub><span style="background:#FF8040"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">Shiny</span></span></sub>]][[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]] 20:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+::::It's lunch time on the 12th here, surely it must be close now. Also i hate it when people say 9-12-09. Makes me think of 9th December because of what we use. Cant't we just say 12th Sep instead of 12-9 or 9-12? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 01:23, 12 September 2009 (UTC))
+==Animations==
+When will we get the animations of the Trainers from this game? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 22:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
+:In due time. The games have been out for a day, which is less time than it took to build Rome, if you get my drift. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 00:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
+::Thanks for supporting me on your answer. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 00:58, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
+== move page ==
+move page to
+Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions/Archive 2
+this talk page is too long. {{unsigned|Ruixiang95}}