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::::I actually agree with ThomasWinwood on that- we can hardly call Hanamogura a prototype Bayleef when it doesn't share any semblance of design or even its name with Bayleef. Given its lack of similarity to Chikorita and Meganium, it could very well be the remains of an unused grass starter line that started to be replaced before the demo. We wouldn't call Honoguma a prototype Cyndaquil and Kurusu a prototype Totodile. The best approach may be to treat any pokemon who does not share its name or a closely similar design with an existing pokemon as its own separate entity. So I would call Hanamogura and Bōbō by their Japanese names and mention somewhere in their info that Bayleef and Noctowl replaced them in the final version, much like I would also reference the pokemon that later took the intended roles for Nameru, Jaranra, Riifi and Baririna. I mean it's the same thing, they were replaced by a different design, just that for Hanamogura and Bōbō, it took less time for them to do so. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 17:27, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | ::::I actually agree with ThomasWinwood on that- we can hardly call Hanamogura a prototype Bayleef when it doesn't share any semblance of design or even its name with Bayleef. Given its lack of similarity to Chikorita and Meganium, it could very well be the remains of an unused grass starter line that started to be replaced before the demo. We wouldn't call Honoguma a prototype Cyndaquil and Kurusu a prototype Totodile. The best approach may be to treat any pokemon who does not share its name or a closely similar design with an existing pokemon as its own separate entity. So I would call Hanamogura and Bōbō by their Japanese names and mention somewhere in their info that Bayleef and Noctowl replaced them in the final version, much like I would also reference the pokemon that later took the intended roles for Nameru, Jaranra, Riifi and Baririna. I mean it's the same thing, they were replaced by a different design, just that for Hanamogura and Bōbō, it took less time for them to do so. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 17:27, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::: At the very least, I would call Hanamogura, Haneei, and Mitsuboshi by their Japanese names. We don't even have confirmation that Ledyba evolves into Mitsuboshi. It might be Ledian, but there is no hard evidence for it. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 17:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | ::::: At the very least, I would call Hanamogura, Haneei, and Mitsuboshi by their Japanese names. We don't even have confirmation that Ledyba evolves into Mitsuboshi. It might be Ledian, but there is no hard evidence for it. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 17:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::::I still think that evolutionary relatives that have a parallel in the final game should be referred to as prototype versions of their final counterpart, but I suppose I'm outnumbered. However, I do think there was something in the code about Ledyba and Ledian's evolution simply being dummied out rather than removed entirely; specifically, that it would evolve into proto-Ledian at level 18. I can double check, though. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#004EA2">cela</span><span style="color:#B60007">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC) | |||