I've heard they're bringing back Pokemon EX cards in September. --Funicode 02:58, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- As was stated in the news article on Bulbanews, Pokémon-ex and Pokémon EX aren't quite the same. They are two different mechanics, and will have different characteristics. Although they are probably made to shadow the old ones, they aren't exactly equal. MaverickNate 04:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm confused, just how are Pokémon-ex and Pokémon-EX different? They both are hugely overpowered Pokémon with the ability for the opponent to get two prizes when they're knocked out. Just how is that "two different mechanics", aside from a technicality (like cards that can search for Pokémon-ex can't grab a Pokémon-EX? Otherwise, I suggest that these two articles be merged, as they are essentially the same thing; no different than how a regular Oddish and an Erika's Oddish are technically two different Pokémon but are both on the same article, "Oddish (TCG)". -- Nick15 05:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- But now with Base Set Scarlet/Violet, lowercase ex is legitimately being brought back. ~waffledoctor87 17:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'm confused, just how are Pokémon-ex and Pokémon-EX different? They both are hugely overpowered Pokémon with the ability for the opponent to get two prizes when they're knocked out. Just how is that "two different mechanics", aside from a technicality (like cards that can search for Pokémon-ex can't grab a Pokémon-EX? Otherwise, I suggest that these two articles be merged, as they are essentially the same thing; no different than how a regular Oddish and an Erika's Oddish are technically two different Pokémon but are both on the same article, "Oddish (TCG)". -- Nick15 05:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Merge with "Pokémon-EX (TCG)"
On the Pokémon EX talk page I shared my complete rationalization for why these two articles should be merged. There's no reason to double post it here.
THE TL;DR VERSION: There are plenty of articles on Bulbapedia which cover multiple versions of something, with each version of that something being slightly to significantly different from the others, both in form and function AND gameplay, and yet those different versions are on the exact same page, simply because there is something larger than those differences which bind them all together on that single page. I cited Oddish (TCG), Unown (TCG) and Shining Pokémon (TCG) as examples of slightly different cards sharing the same article simply because something binds them together. As such, despite the differences between "Pokémon-ex" and "Pokémon EX" (which I argue are merely cosmetic and thus insignificant), I believe that the two should be merged into a single article, mostly because the "Knock out = two prizes" mechanic is the "larger idea" which bind the two together.
Of course, I welcome anyone who can argue that the status quo is the better option and that there is a perfectly rational reason to keep them separate than to merge them. The thing is, even if I don't believe that there is a rational reason, that doesn't mean that reason doesn't exist.
Thank you for your time! -- Nick15 20:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Merge with Pokemon ex
According to this ruling from the Pokegym Compendium, Pokemon ex from SV are the same as Pokemon-ex from RS, with the exception that only new Pokemon ex have a "Rule Box". Therefore, this page should be merged with the newer ex page. Or maybe the other way round since this page is older. I don't know what the rule on Bulbapedia is. Salmancer (talk) 17:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- So, there are a few additional things at play. Among them is the Japanese for the old Pokémon-ex without the rulebox is "Pokémon extra" while the new one with the rulebox is "Pokemon ex" (pronounced eee ecks). Because there is enough reason to discuss these two topics separately, we decided to keep them as separate pages that link to each other, and not merge them together. You are right that English considers them the same, but the TCG team here found it beneficial to keep them separate pages MaverickNate 03:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- If this is the offical Bulbapedia answer, does this mean the ex entry on Pokémon (TCG) should be split? (I didn't merge them, there just wasn't a new ex entry.) Should links to ex on card pages only link to one or the other ex rendition based on their series? While purely hypothetical, what happens if an old Trainer card referring to old ex gets a reprint in a Scarlet and Violet set referencing new ex? (Unlimited doesn't see play, why else would the ruling have been made?) Salmancer (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- Regardless of pronunciation, I don't think it's just the international versions of the game that consider old and new Pokemon ex to be the same. A Japanese ruling on Norman (Paradox Rift 168) (last result here at the time of writing ) states that you draw the 2 additional cards if the opponent's active Pokemon is a classic Pokemon ex. --Tvoretz (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's definetly not just a english thing, we are beyond that split-ruling early era, since any ruling needs to be synchronised globally for tournaments anyway. I feel pretty neutral to the idea of merging the pages insofar that the main justification for seperating them imo would be that the old ones dont technically have the rule box, even though the cards generate the same effect (if this would have an consequence for cards that specifically interact with ruleboxes). But otherwise its clear that they are considered to be the same from the perspective of sharing a name, and we do have cases in both the Pokémon-GX and Pokémon V pages where the ruleboxes differ between the different (sub) mechanics. 4iamking 20:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless of pronunciation, I don't think it's just the international versions of the game that consider old and new Pokemon ex to be the same. A Japanese ruling on Norman (Paradox Rift 168) (last result here at the time of writing ) states that you draw the 2 additional cards if the opponent's active Pokemon is a classic Pokemon ex. --Tvoretz (talk) 20:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- If this is the offical Bulbapedia answer, does this mean the ex entry on Pokémon (TCG) should be split? (I didn't merge them, there just wasn't a new ex entry.) Should links to ex on card pages only link to one or the other ex rendition based on their series? While purely hypothetical, what happens if an old Trainer card referring to old ex gets a reprint in a Scarlet and Violet set referencing new ex? (Unlimited doesn't see play, why else would the ruling have been made?) Salmancer (talk) 16:21, 9 December 2023 (UTC)