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:I think we could merge the articles, but keep them as separate sections until we find out if cards that search out Pokémon-ex can also search Pokémon EX. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 02:44, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | :I think we could merge the articles, but keep them as separate sections until we find out if cards that search out Pokémon-ex can also search Pokémon EX. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 02:44, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | ||
::They aren't the same name. They CANNOT search that way. They are not going on the same article. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 04:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::I respectfully disagree, but it doesn't look like I'll be able to resolve my dispute here. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 07:45, 15 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
::::Fully agree that the two articles should be merged. Ever since day one, I've seen literally no differences between "Pokemon ex" and "Pokemon-EX" besides the capitalization. It seems obvious (to me, at least) that the new Pokemon-EX was meant to be a revival of the old mechanic and therefore is the same thing, just "modernized" with a new look and a shiny capital EX. [[User:PieGuy|PieGuy]] 03:00, 20 December 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::::[http://www.pokemon.com/us/ex/mewtwo This] is from the official Pokémon site and it says "Pokémon-EX return in the Pokémon TCG: Black & White-Next Destinies expansion." That sounds like confirmation that they are the same thing to me. What do ya'll think? [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 21:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::EDIT: Just found [http://www.pokemon.com/us/ex/mewtwo/pokemon-ex This]. They are definitely the same thing and the articles SHOULD be merged. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 22:05, 25 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::Honestly, I think that just about CONFIRMS IT. However... -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 23:54, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I've since come to notice that, according to the (American) TCG rule staff that old cards which refer to—and affect—"Pokémon ex" cards are not applicable to the new Pokemon EX cards. As such, despite the technicality of that, Nintendo STILL treats the new EX cards to be the same as the old ones (as apparent by their language "Pokémon EX RETURN".). I therefore still believe and request that these two articles be merged, and feel that the Moderator(s) are exceeding their authority by deliberately REFUSING to ''at least'' put this matter up to a Community Vote. | |||
:''HOWEVER'', I am willing to compromise on this issue. I suggest that the article "Pokémon EX" (alone, with no sub-paranthesis) be created as ''Disambiguation'' page with links leading to "Pokémon ex (EX-series)" and "Pokémon EX (BW series)" articles. This way, the Disambiguation page will cover the details of which both EX-types share, while each individual EX page wil cover the details of which the two are unique (such as what cards can be used against them or not). I think that, short of merging the two articles, this is a fair compromise, as it recognizes the two type's fundamental similarities while also recognizing their technical uniqueness. | |||
:I will probably make these chances myself if I don't get any kind of response. Again, I think doing it this way is better and fairer both for everyone's opinions on the matter as well as for the community, as I'm sure there are plenty of people scratching their heads on why there are two articles titled "Pokémon Ex (TCG)". Of course, I'm open to evidence proving the contrary and that we actually ARE best off with the status quo and that even something like a Disambiguation page along with a renaming of the two articles is compltely unnecessary.. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 23:54, 13 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Er, by "make these changes myself", I mean placing the "move request" thingy on the top of both EX pages (so that AT LEAST it's easier to tell which of the two "Pokémon EX" articles are for, instead of the generic and less clear title of "Pokemon EX (TCG)") as well as edit the article "Pokémon EX" so that it's not a redirect and is instead a Disambiguation page which links leading to the two separate articles. That's assuming I have to get a Mod's permission to use the "Move" function that's on the top of every page. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 00:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::We at Bulbapedia recognize two ways of disambiguating articles. Typically, when there are only two things being distinguished from one another, the line at the top of the page directing users to the other one is preferred. Both pages already do this. | |||
:::The only thing that binds these two mechanics is the 2 prize rule. They are very much separate. Even though the International Company mentioned a revival of the old {{TCG|Pokémon-ex}}, the Japanese Pokémon Company (the parent company of the aforementioned TPCi, mind you) regards them as completely separate things. With the first group, it is an abbreviation for "Pokémon extra." The new group are "Pokémon E-X." Even the card layout and representation was based on {{TCG|Pokémon LV.X|something other than}} Pokémon-ex. All the Japanese listings were quite specific and exact when announcing the new group, taking the time to point out how unique and different they are supposed to be. The entire Japanese player base considers them two completely separate things. Rulings in both languages consider them two separate entities that are not tied together. | |||
:::The fact that the localization of the card game screwed up the representation of the first group does not change the fact that they are intended to be separate, and actually are completely separate in the country of origin. | |||
:::The pages will not be moved. Nothing more will be created. The two pages represent exactly what they should, and they direct readers to the other if they intended to be there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 04:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Deletion == | |||
I merged this article with [[Pokémon-ex]], so this page needs to be deleted. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 04:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:You did not have permission to merge the articles. Do not do this again. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 04:56, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Sorry. Just tryin' to help. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 04:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Dragon Type == | |||
I was reading the table, and it seems like Giratine and Rayquaza have the "Dragon" type. Is this a new TCG Type, or is it just made for these two cards? Do we need an article for it otherwise? --[[User:Teddi'Ampha|Teddi'Ampha]] | |||
== Black Kyurem-EX and White Kyurem-EX == | |||
This page lists the upcoming Black and White Kyurem-EX tin promos as being reprints of the Boundaries Crossed versions; do we have any proof of this? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 07:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Not really (as far as I know), but the Keldeo-EX is a reprint from Boundaries Crossed, it makes sense that the Kyurem cards are reprints from the same set too. Plus, they were the debut EXs for Black and White Kyurem, coming from a main expansion, have full art versions and all that. The Plasma Storm ones, were just shoved into the english set and came from stand alone decks. I think it makes more sense to assume the reprints are from the Boundaries Crossed versions. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 05:05, 13 February 2013 (UTC) | |||