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==Opening== | |||
<s>Just a note that this does not give an idea of what Pokemon actually ''is'' in the opening sentence. The series of what? What franchise? It should be written as if the reader knows nothing about the topic. I know, I know, <nowiki>{{sofixit}}</nowiki></s> Nevermind, I've done it. <span style="color:#3e7614;">—</span> [[User:Jellochuu|<span style="color:#a1cf31;">Jellochuu</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Jellochuu|<span style="color:#3e7614;font-size:160%;">¾]]</span></sup> 22:39, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC) | <s>Just a note that this does not give an idea of what Pokemon actually ''is'' in the opening sentence. The series of what? What franchise? It should be written as if the reader knows nothing about the topic. I know, I know, <nowiki>{{sofixit}}</nowiki></s> Nevermind, I've done it. <span style="color:#3e7614;">—</span> [[User:Jellochuu|<span style="color:#a1cf31;">Jellochuu</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Jellochuu|<span style="color:#3e7614;font-size:160%;">¾]]</span></sup> 22:39, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC) | ||
*A* manga? And it links to Special? Um...there's at *least* five Pokémon mangas out there...The only reason I'm not changing it myself is because I don't know if we have a general "pokémon manga" listing. | ==Manga== | ||
*A* manga? And it links to Special? Um...there's at *least* five Pokémon mangas out there...The only reason I'm not changing it myself is because I don't know if we have a general "pokémon manga" listing. {{unsigned|Blackjack Gabbiani}} | |||
==Animals== | |||
I always wondered, are humans the only animals apart from Pokémon in the Pokémon world? [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 09:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | I always wondered, are humans the only animals apart from Pokémon in the Pokémon world? [[User:Punkrockrevel|Punkrockrevel]] 09:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
thats what i believe... | thats what i believe...[[User:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#003366;">K</span>]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|<span style="color:#003366;">P</span>]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#003366;">F</span>]][[User:Kpokefan/Cal|<span style="color:#003366;">☆</span>]] | ||
I'd think so... | I'd think so... | ||
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::Not unless you count coral(I don't).--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 14:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | ::Not unless you count coral(I don't).--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 14:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
::We have Corsola. --[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 11:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC) | ::We have Corsola. --[[User:Anangryzapdos|Anangryzapdos]] 11:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Very sad.....== | ==Very sad.....== | ||
Hello everyone , | Hello everyone , | ||
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:Agree. One for the species and one for the franchise. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 19:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC) | :Agree. One for the species and one for the franchise. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 19:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
:If this article had more beef, I'd probably be against moving it. But then again, as long as there's one for each entity, why not? On the other hand, if this article was ''split'', there would be even less content in each separate article than what little is already in the unified one. Should I add a move notice at the top of the page? <!-- I know that you're either reading the source code or replying to the conversation, so don't imagine you have additional options >:) --> '''—[[User:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#AF0000;">Дlεχ</span>]][[User_talk:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#0000AF;">Thε</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#00AF00;">Rσϛε</span>]]''' 00:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | :If this article had more beef, I'd probably be against moving it. But then again, as long as there's one for each entity, why not? On the other hand, if this article was ''split'', there would be even less content in each separate article than what little is already in the unified one. Should I add a move notice at the top of the page? <!-- I know that you're either reading the source code or replying to the conversation, so don't imagine you have additional options >:) --> '''—[[User:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#AF0000;">Дlεχ</span>]][[User_talk:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#0000AF;">Thε</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#00AF00;">Rσϛε</span>]]''' 00:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Now that you put it that way, it's kind of a split decision for me now. - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 01:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't think this needs to be moved. The article already covers both the franchise and the creatures, along with links to the [[Pokémon (species)]] article at the top and under the Creatures heading. In addition, if I search for Pokémon, I'm going to expect the franchise, not the creatures. If I wanted to find {{p|Pikachu}}, I would search for it, and I think most others would too. --[[User:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#000000">'''Darth'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Zekrom'''</span>]] 22:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Why== | ==Why== | ||
Why is it that my work gets deleted a few minutes after I have contributed????? [[User:Mr. ADK|Mr. ADK]] 00:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | Why is it that my work gets deleted a few minutes after I have contributed????? [[User:Mr. ADK|Mr. ADK]] 00:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
:That means you've been undone, and the user who undid you most likely thinks (and has a valid reason like in this case, for example) your contribution wasn't necessary nor good, don't take it as a bad thing, because it's the best way to prevent bad edits from showing up in the wiki. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 01:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
:[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]]'s right. If you want to make sure your edits don't get reverted, make sure they comply with the [[Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style|MoS]]. Thanks, and have a good day. :) '''—[[User:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#AF0000;">Дlεχ</span>]][[User_talk:AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#0000AF;">Thε</span>]][[Special:Contributions/AlexTheRose|<span style="color:#00AF00;">Rσϛε</span>]]''' 04:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Logo == | |||
I thought that since this is a landmark-kinda article, it might fit to have the logo up and center. Apparently, my change was undone. What does everyone think? I think the 200px image on the right with the description is a bit cheap... -[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash Pokemaster]] ([[User talk:Ash Pokemaster|talk]]) 07:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The Japanese Name of the Series == | |||
OK, this may sound silly to some of you since I'm admittedly not as avid a fan of Pokémon as some people, but I notice a continuous trend is to render the Japanese title as Pocket Monsters. I assumed this was correct for a long time, but then I actually took a look at the katakana on the Japanese Pokémon Yellow game box, then looked at the Japanese game titles in general. It's off. ポケットモンスター should read as poketto monsutā, or Pocket Monster. If it was meant to be Pocket Monsters, it would be ポケットモンスターズ instead. From what I've seen, this is the consistent spelling outside of some spinoff titles that literally use the ポケモン (Pokémon) name. Even on the Pocket Monster Pikachu box, it says Pocket Monster and Pocket Monsters in clear English, but on the other hand later Japanese games (as of 3rd gen) tend to write Pokémon in English instead, even though that is not in the direct title. So I'm confused. Am I missing something? Why do we use the plural if it's not in the Japanese text? Shouldn't we use the correct translation anyway when talking about literal Japanese titles? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:33, 16 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I just searched "Japanese plural" and most of the results state that most words in Japanese have plural form, remaining the same. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:08, 16 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::The problem with that is that ポケットモンスター is in katakana, which conveys it as more or less an English transliteration and directly interpreted as Pocket Monster. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:50, 17 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::: Since I do not know how to read katakana I cannot help out with this, but I would like to make a mention to one of the [[Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon#Think_this_is_a_good_place_to_ask.|sections that is above this one]] which says that the romanization is "monsutaa" instead of "monsutā." Sorry if this does not help, but I think that it might help out in this discussion. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:35, 18 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Doubled vowels (aa, ee, ii, uu, oo) = Macron vowels (ā, ē, ī, ō, ū) I think that's right. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::It is Pocket Monster'''s'''. [[Game Boy Tower|The title screens on the Japanese versions of Red/Green, Blue, Yellow, Gold/Silver and Crystal]] clearly translate it as Pocket Monster'''s''', so I don't understand why are you changing it all of a sudden. [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 13:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Pokemon vs Pokémon in Japan == | |||
I've noticed from let's plays that in Japanese versions of {{g|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, when the abbreviated word ポケモン is written out in English (specifically in the battle screen with Fight, Pokémon, Bag, Run), | |||
https://youtu.be/pbgptf3H23M?t=10m29s | |||
it's written as "'''Pokemon'''", and not "'''Pokémon'''". Is this notable, or is Japan inconsistent with the accent? [[User:iam.soviet19|<span style="color:#11AA11">iAM</span>]]''' [[User talk:iam.soviet19|<span style="color:#AA1111"><sc> soViet</sc></span>]][[Special:Contributions/iam.soviet19|<span style="color:#1111AA">19</span>]]''' | |||
:Generally speaking they're normally inconsistent with its usage, leaning more towards using "Pokémon" in recent years than in the early years of the franchise. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 05:15, 5 January 2018 (UTC) | |||