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:I just removed the links altogether. Doesn't need to be linked to anything until the names are revealed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC) | :I just removed the links altogether. Doesn't need to be linked to anything until the names are revealed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 05:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
::Now the [[Rival]] characters table needs to change ??? to TBD for consistency, even though it doesn't link to anything (or perhaps change TBD's here back to ??? but without using the color2 template). [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC) | ::Now the [[Rival]] characters table needs to change ??? to TBD for consistency, even though it doesn't link to anything (or perhaps change TBD's here back to ??? but without using the color2 template). [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 06:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC) | ||
== Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go? == | |||
Just read this now: | |||
https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/11/7/18072704/pokemon-lets-go-trailer-red-blue-green-trainer-fights | |||
It looks like [[Leaf (game)|Leaf]], who was just announced on the newslink above as making a guest appearance on [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], won't be officially named Leaf but Green instead! But if Green was the Japanese name for [[Blue (game)|Blue]], then how will she be named in Japanese if "Leaf" is dropped for "Green"? (Also posted this on [[Talk:Green (game)#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Leaf (game)]]; if you want to post a reply to this thread, please do so on that page, not on this one.) [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 14:31, 8 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:I'm just as confused as you. Blue appears to already be famous, which means that Red and Blue might literally just be "[[Battle_Legend_(Trainer_class)|Battle Legends]]", they fought in the league and are the best. The game seems to be a reality where all three exist, with Green's personality taking inspiration from [[Green_(Adventures)|her manga counterpart]] in the Pokemon Adventures Series; though that version also starts donning Leaf's outfit after the FRLG manga series. | |||
:FRLG's Leaf seems to just be a "what if" situation for Red and is just there to be his female counterpart. I would hate for that to be the case, but the choice between male and female in every generation, besides Generation 1 (and maybe Gen 2), really complicates the solidification of any "real" canonicity.[[User:Argentarus|Argentarus]] ([[User talk:Argentarus|talk]]) 16:46, 16 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Did you read what I wrote above? If you want to post a reply to this thread, please do so on [[Talk:Green (game)#Leaf now called Green in Pokémon Let's Go?|Talk:Leaf (game)]], not on this talk page. Thankee! [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 03:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Update to image PlayerCharactersGrouped.png requested (way long overdue) == | |||
I have an updated version of the file '''[[a:File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png|PlayerCharactersGrouped.png]]''' incorporating [[Elio (game)|Elio]] & [[Selene (game)|Selene]] with their default [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun/​Ultra Moon]] outfits. In addition to adding the Ultra characters, I made a slight correction to the original Elio present in the current version of the file: | |||
[[File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png|1024px]] | |||
I noticed one of his Water Shoes was missing a two-pixel-wide chunk, which I found detached between [[Calem (game)|Calem's]] legs, so I reattached it. | |||
I would like to upload it myself, but I am not yet auto-confirmed on the [[a:Main Page|Bulbagarden Archives]], so I cannot upload it to replace the current version which was uploaded by [[User:S2daam|S2daam]] almost two years ago, especially when there is at least [[#Image|one user other than me]] still waiting for an updated version of the file. What would I need to do in the Archives in order to become autoconfirmed there so I can replace the outdated image above with the one I made (which anyway is already outdated since the release of [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], which would demand adding [[Chase (game)|Chase]] and [[Elaine (game)|Elaine]] to the group). [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 09:02, 17 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not really a fan of things that always need updating. ...I guess that kind of describes the whole wiki, but I mean that the problem is that that image is not entirely easy to update. Plus, as more keep getting added, it just becomes worse as an actual thumbnail with more and more characters crowding the same limited space. | |||
:And you've basically got the same info in the tables already. The only thing the image offers is a few character design differences of the same characters. But that should also all be on the character's page already. I'd really much rather just remove/delete the image. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Agree with Tiddlywinks. Also, that image is hideous and it's mainly because of all the whitespace and full body artworks stacked on top of each other, which makes it look way too big.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 15:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::I beg to differ, because there are users out there (I can cite at least one) who would like to see it updated. What would you tell them when they find out it was deleted? And what about those auto-confirmed contributors who updated it with the passing of years? What would you tell them when they see all their years worth of graphical work and tinkering vanish like a Pokémon being released from the PC or a shiny one being knocked out with a critical hit? I don't think they would take it lightly; they might end up leaving Bulbagarden altogether and join instead that other wiki-like competitor whose W-starting name is being slowly changed to a stupid name starting with F. [[User:SilSinn9801|SilSinn (Pokémon Sun Trainer ID: 768426)]] ([[User talk:SilSinn9801|talk]]) 21:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::That's not logical reasoning, that's emotional scaremongering... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::::There's no need for an image of all the protagonists when the template already has those images. If people wanted to see Red's old artwork, they can go to {{ga|Red}}. This article is '''not''' for showcasing old artworks, it's about player characters.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 03:37, 18 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::::As a regular user, I concur that the image is redundant. I can't imagine anyone on here who would love to see this image stay. Just because people worked hard on that image doesn't give it a pass for staying here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Tim Goodman == | |||
We should probably mention [[Tim Goodman]] somewhere in this article. [[User:PDL|PDL]] ([[User talk:PDL|talk]]) 23:10, 7 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Change pre-generated to pre-created == | |||
To me it "pre-generated" sounds like it was created by an algorithm and not a creator, while "pre-created" suggests that some one created them themselves. Could someone change the "pre-generated" line in the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon section to "pre-created"? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 18:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Names for Sword/Shield protagonists in E3 demo play == | |||
Today on Nintendo Treehouse Day 1 at E3, the two Game Freak guys (Masuda and one whose name I don’t know) used these two names for their player characters in {{gameabbrev8|SwSh}}: Victor and Gloria (puns on Victory and Glory). Sure, we cannot yet take them as official names, but can treat them as demo names for the record. ‐‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
BTW, has anybody here seen Japanese demo names for the two protagonists? ‐‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
:They did refer to the female protagonist as "the Gloria character", I think it's the same situation as SM and Let's Go. These are their names. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 17:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
::In previous cases, the secondary; or for remakes, the original names; are considered the defaults. Xavier, Orlando, and Sun were the names in the demos for X, ORAS and SuMo, but the male rival name in X ended up being Calem, the protag in ORAS is still considered Brendan, and SuMo's is Elio because it's the secondary. Unfortunately, although Victor and Gloria are awesome names, they're the primary, or marketing, names. Despite being a demo, the E3 Demo provides a secondary pair , or the default names, being Tom and Jane. <- These are the ones that go under default. [[User:Argentarus|Argentarus]] ([[User talk:Argentarus|talk]]) 18:28, 12 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::With the exception of Leaf, Kris, and Generation VII, all the previous cases were defined by in-game NPC names and nothing else. The latest promotional images consistently use "Victor", "Sword", and "Shield" (their Japanese counterparts use "Masaru", "Yuuri", and "Sword"); it seems like the same situation as SM and Let's Go, they're using the characters' names and the games' names. "Tom" and "Jane" are nowhere to be seen outside the E3 Max Raid Battle, where four characters were needed. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 16:01, 13 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::Just to stay on the safe side - did we see Victor actually used as the player character's name? I've only seen it as a name of one of the team-up Trainers in the Max Raid Battle video but perhaps I overlooked something. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 17:31, 13 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::::So to clarify this, Taylor: Masaru マサル would be Victor’s Japanese counterpart and Yuuri ユウリ would be Gloria’s, while Sword & Shield’s Japanese counterparts remain as Sword ソード & Shield シールド, respectively. Taylor’s response above was somewhat incomplete: while listing English names, Gloria was left out, and while listing Japanese counterparts, Shield was left out. ‐‑''[[User:SilSinn9801|<b style="color:red">SilSinn</b>]]'' ([[TID]]s: '''768426[[Pokémon Sun|<sup style="color:#F1912B">S</sup>]]''', '''123446[[Pokémon Ultra Moon|<sup style="color:#226DB5">UM</sup>]]''') [[User talk:SilSinn9801|💬]] 17:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
:Obviously Victor (Masaru) and Gloria (Yuuri) are their official name. Tom and Jane were used for images of non-players. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 04:12, 14 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
::For the record, there are already pages under works for [[User:Abcboy/Victor (game)|Victor]] and [[User:Abcboy/Gloria (game)|Gloria]]. [https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sword_shield/assets/img_system_190612_02_13.jpg This] (and [https://swordshield.portal-pokemon.com/tc/system/img/system_img_0612_8.png this]) is the source for the Japanese names. --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 06:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
:::I dont know if these are official names. Remember the articles used to call Elio and Selene "Sun" and "Moon" after the Gen VII games? [[User:TwistedMeow|TwistedMeow]] ([[User talk:TwistedMeow|talk]]) 04:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::Agreed. We should wait until we have further, official confirmation on the names. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:42, 28 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Pokémon Masters player characters == | |||
It looks like the upcoming [[Pokémon Masters]] game has player characters of its own. The teaser poster and animated trailer also reflect that. Could the article be edited to reflect this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 14:57, 28 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Edit Requests == | |||
Not sure if this is the way to do it, but since the page is locked, can someone with editing access please add the player characters for [[Pokémon Masters]] and [[Pokémon Ga-Olé]] to the article? I don't see them anywhere on the article. Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:26, 4 August 2019 (UTC) | |||