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== Bank Pokedex (more confusion) ==
== Bank Pokedex (more confusion) ==


Bank has given us evidence against. All confirmed mythical pokemon, and nearly all [[special pokémon]] (except Mewtwo), have a shiny/reflective background on their pokedex picture entry, but Phione doesn't.
Bank has given us evidence against. All confirmed mythical pokemon, and nearly all [[Special Pokémon]] (except Mewtwo), have a shiny/reflective background on their pokedex picture entry, but Phione doesn't. [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - literally it doesn't stand for anything]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 15:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== Book ==
 
Official guide to legendary and mythical Pokemon states that phone is a mythical Pokemon.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 00:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 
 
Official adventure guide Ashs quest from kanto to kalos says same thing.
 
== Is it really still disputed? ==
 
Let's look at the evidence against:
 
It can breed to produce eggs - a similar logic can be applied to the cosmog line to claim they are not legendaries because they can evolve, but we know they are legendaries and this is simply an exception. Phione could be an exception to the rule that says mythical can't breed to produce themselves, so I don't think this is good evidence
 
The HGSS guide - this was 7 years ago, and subsequent similar guides have stated it is mythical
 
Pokemon Ranger - again this game is nearly 7 years old, and subsequent similar side games like Mystery Dungeon have stated that it's mythical. besides this only proves that it's not part of a grouping of pokemon known as in the game as "rare". While this "rare" grouping has overlap with mythical, that doesn't necessarily mean rare = mythical. even if rare=mythical - this game is now 7 years old.
 
the mailbag - not only is this offline, but the most recent answer was a yes, indicating that the initial answer may have been a mistake.
 
There are many more sources claiming it is mythical, and crucially these are all more recent than the sources claiming it isn't. the only official sources that stated 100% it isn't mythical (the mailbag and hgss guide), have subsequently been contradicted by similar official sources. ie the mailbag was updated, and there have been similar guides since the HGSS one claiming that it is mythical
 
maybe we should just call a mythical pokemon, with a note somewhere saying that some older sources stated it wasn't, or that it's mythical status wasn't always clear [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - literally it doesn't stand for anything]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 11:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
:This was discussed [[Talk:Phione (Pokémon)#Mythical Status (again)|a few sections ago]] and the consensus seemed to be agreement, including staff member SnorlaxMonster, but nothing has been done about it yet. I think perhaps the Editorial Board should be prodded to consider the change more hastily. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:52, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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