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:::::::::Can you suggest such a set? Like I said in my first post, I don't think a set exists that can please most people. Everyone's personal definitions seem too far apart. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | :::::::::Can you suggest such a set? Like I said in my first post, I don't think a set exists that can please most people. Everyone's personal definitions seem too far apart. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::For one, the "unique Ability" criteria needs to be made less important or dropped entirely, because it needlessly bloats the list. For example, Darmanitan isn't the only Pokémon with a Forme Change, nor is it the only Pokémon with a Dream World ability, so in my opinion just being the only Pokémon with Zen Mode doesn't make it a "novelty Pokémon." Same for Meloetta, it's not the only one with a Forme Change or unique move. Pokémon whose novelty trait no longer exists in the current generation (Abra, Farfetch'd, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Eevee, Sableye, Feebas, Deoxys) can be trimmed. My personal list would be Ditto, Mew, Spiky-Eared Pichu, Wobbuffet, Smeargle, Shedinja (whose unique Ability is supplemented by the fact it only has 1HP and a unique evolution method to make it a novelty), Spinda, Castform (a novelty because its entire purpose revolves around weather conditions), Burmy & Wormadam (because of the environment-specific Forme Change that remains permanent in evolution), Shellos & Gastrodon (the novelty of the sides of Mt. Coronet doesn't even exist in future games), Spiritomb (the capture method), Rotom, and Deerling & Sawsbuck (the novelty being that they focus on seasons). Of course, I recognize that there's plenty of difference of opinion, but I think something can be worked out. ---- | ::::::::::For one, the "unique Ability" criteria needs to be made less important or dropped entirely, because it needlessly bloats the list. For example, Darmanitan isn't the only Pokémon with a Forme Change, nor is it the only Pokémon with a Dream World ability, so in my opinion just being the only Pokémon with Zen Mode doesn't make it a "novelty Pokémon." Same for Meloetta, it's not the only one with a Forme Change or unique move. Pokémon whose novelty trait no longer exists in the current generation (Abra, Farfetch'd, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Eevee, Sableye, Feebas, Deoxys) can be trimmed. My personal list would be Ditto, Mew, Spiky-Eared Pichu, Wobbuffet, Smeargle, Shedinja (whose unique Ability is supplemented by the fact it only has 1HP and a unique evolution method to make it a novelty), Spinda, Castform (a novelty because its entire purpose revolves around weather conditions), Burmy & Wormadam (because of the environment-specific Forme Change that remains permanent in evolution), Shellos & Gastrodon (the novelty of the sides of Mt. Coronet doesn't even exist in future games), Spiritomb (the capture method), Rotom, and Deerling & Sawsbuck (the novelty being that they focus on seasons). Of course, I recognize that there's plenty of difference of opinion, but I think something can be worked out. ---- | ||
:::::::::::I do not agree with deletion so long as the last post is what happens to this page. I think that novelty Pokémon are a legitimate part of the fandom. However, most of these Pokémon are not, or have never been novelty Pokémon. [[User:Trotz59|Trotz59]] ([[User talk:Trotz59|talk]]) 08:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC) | :::::::::::I do not agree with deletion so long as the last post is what happens to this page. I think that novelty Pokémon are a legitimate part of the fandom. However, most of these Pokémon are not, or have never been novelty Pokémon. But with that in mind, I think that [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] 's set idea would appropriately account for most current novelty Pokémon. [[User:Trotz59|Trotz59]] ([[User talk:Trotz59|talk]]) 08:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC) | ||