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::::::::We know it's a new form, we're just waiting on the name before we add it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 02:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | ::::::::We know it's a new form, we're just waiting on the name before we add it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 02:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::After '''5 weeks, 3 Talk sections, and seventy-four comments,''' this is our first notification from an admin? This would have saved all of us a lot of time to know 5 weeks ago. We've been discussing and suggesting for this long and just now the reason is revealed to us. Honestly, I can't fathom a good excuse for waiting this long to tell us. I'm waiting, though. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">IWanna</font>]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">VeryBest</font>]]</span></font> 12:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | :::::::::After '''5 weeks, 3 Talk sections, and seventy-four comments,''' this is our first notification from an admin? This would have saved all of us a lot of time to know 5 weeks ago. We've been discussing and suggesting for this long and just now the reason is revealed to us. Honestly, I can't fathom a good excuse for waiting this long to tell us. I'm waiting, though. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">IWanna</font>]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">VeryBest</font>]]</span></font> 12:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::Just skimming over the comments I see at least three staff commenting in these discussions. All of which have said along the lines of 'we don't know it's the same and we are waiting for a name to be revealed'. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 13:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
Skim better, because no one other than FF has said "we are waiting for the name." Two of the four admins ''only'' discussed voice actors. Of the two others, Ataro only said we shouldn't use an unconfirmed name like "Éclair Forme" and FF addressed it just now. ''Even if'' one incorrectly infers Ataro to have said "'''The reason''' that we haven't mentioned the Forme is '''because''' we don't know its official name," the staff isn't safe from criticism. Why not just announce this as soon as we knew it was definitely a Mewtwo Forme? Why watch us waste all our time discussing something that clearly ''none of us'' in these sections knew/comprehended? Why do we absolutely need a name to just mention the Forme? "In [[Pokémon X and Y]] and its teaser film, [[M16]], {{p|Mewtwo}} is able to use a new Forme." See, that was easy. Slap a 200px image of the Forme, possibly add "The name of this Forme is not yet known", and call it a day. --<font face="Segoe UI"><span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em">[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="red">IWanna</font>]]BeThe[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|<font color="white">VeryBest</font>]]</span></font> 14:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
== New Form picture == | |||
I recently watched a trailer from the official Japanese Pokémon YouTube, and I screenshotted this (from my iPhone, since I mainly use that. You can make it so that the black bars aren't there): | |||
[[File:MewtwoForm.png|480px|left]]. | |||
The trailer, in my opinion was a teaser trailer, or a TV Spot trailer (it was about 1 minute long). [[User:Chaossy|Chaossy]] ([[User talk:Chaossy|talk]]) 12:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
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== M01 -M16 == | |||
Hey, different Mewtwo there! Remove some inappropriate words please! KyleRGiggs 03:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== MegaMewtwo == | |||
[http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/ 4' 11" (1.5m) and 72.8 lbs (33 kg).] {{unsigned|Marked +-+-+}} | |||
== Mega Evolution == | |||
Since forme changes are listed on the evolutionary chain at the bottom of the page, should mega evolutions be added as well? --[[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 09:20, 16 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
:We're not sure until the staff makes the final decisions on how we're treating Mega Evolutions on the wiki, which probably won't happen until we find out more information about them. Please trust that major Gen VI things aren't being forgotten about; we don't need to be reminded. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:06, 16 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
Ok, I tried asking a Admin about this and got no response so I'll ask here. Why did Bulbapedia and the staff do a 180° and went form accepting Mewtwo's Awaken forme to now changing it to Mega Mewtwo Mega Evolution. Did Game freak originally have this as a forme change then went with the Mega Evolution angle. If so, shouldn't this be investigated and mentioned? I mean usually Bulbapedia shys away from speculation...so why was any info on the Awaken forme change ever put on the page in the first place? Did some official source come out talking about it? This is driving me nuts trying to figure out. If Nintendo/Game Freak Originally meant for this forme to be a forme change, then it should be mentioned in the article. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:[http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/pokemon/mega_pokemon/ Here's the evidence] [[User:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:red">'''オリ'''</span>]][[User talk:TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:green">'''ジ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/TheOriginalOne|<span style="color:blue">'''ナル'''</span>]] <small>TheOriginalOne</small> 22:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::It was (apparently) originally listed as a form on the official Japanese website for the Mewtwo/Genesect movie. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that "form" was just the closest term they could come up with because they didn't want to prematurely reveal/spoil the existence of Mega Evolutions, or that somebody not privy to the Mega Evolution info was writing the promotional copy for the website. I don't think it's a big deal. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::It was called Awakened Mewtwo. I don't think they ever stated it was a Forme, at least in its name. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 04:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Edit request == | |||
The article, as most recently updated, states ''it can [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]] into two different forms''. Since they are definitely not "forms" in the usual Pokemon sense, we should be very careful about using the generic version of the word to avoid confusing readers. If someone could change "forms" to a different word (Pokémon? Mega Evolutions? states? appearances? etc), that'd be great. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Mega Mewtwo X Mega evolves with Mewtwonite X, so Mega Mewtwo Y Should Mega Evolve with Mewtwonite Y(i think). [[User:Squirtleoshawott461|Squirtleoshawott461]] ([[User talk:Squirtleoshawott461|talk]]) 15:56, 11 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Mega Evo Weighting == | |||
Is it worth noting in the "Trivia" section that Mewtwo is the only Pokemon to lose weight as it Mega Evolves? (Note: I attempted to check this, but I may have missed one or two) | |||
--[[User:TheAsianIsGamin|TheAsianIsGamin]] ([[User talk:TheAsianIsGamin|talk]]) 05:52, 10 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Is it worth noting that... == | |||
Mewtwo has the highest special attack stat of all Pokémon that are neither mega evolutions or an alternative form? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|Blaze The Movie Fan]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 18:23, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I'd say possibly, since the highest stat of a type seems to be worth noting, although it starts to be a stretch when you include alternate formes. Also, you can solve you double edit problem by going to preferences>signature and changing your signature there. -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|<sub>talk</sub>]] 18:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::"Highest except for" isn't highest, thus not notable. We don't exclude Mega Evolutions in BST trivia anyways. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 18:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Mewtwo battle music == | |||
Would it be worth noting in trivia that when player fights Mewtwo in X/Y, the music features tunes from Gen I? --[[User:TakeruDavis|<sup><span style="color:#009900">Takeru</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#4444FF">Davis</span></sub>]][[:a:File:TakeruDavis.gif|<sup>[1]</sup>]] 11:19, 18 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
:That also happens for the birds (because they share the music), not sure if that's notable because of that. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 11:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Added Giegue-Mewtwo similarity to trivia == | |||
I added Mewtwo resembling Giegue to the trivia, now may someone please add links to the wikibound pages on Mother(game) and Giygas? I'm kind of a wikinoob... --PalkiaMaster- 0100100100100000010000010100110100100000010001110100111101000100 01:47, 14 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:We've actually removed this trivia in the past. We try not to point out unconfirmed references to other games since they're mostly based on opinion. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
== coincidence? == | |||
Sorry to bother anyone,or if this has been mentioned elsewhere... Um,I'm playing pokemon y and someone traded me a mewtwo(which the data said was caught at unknown dungeon) with 3 max IVs,and later I caught a mewtwo with also 3 max ivs,and after resetting the game 3 times,I also found mewtwo with 3 max ivs in all tries. I know that this could be pure luck but,is anybody experiencing the same thing? Or is there a mention of mewtwo caught in the unknown dungeon being guaranteed to have 3 (or less) max ivs,like pokemon caught in the friend safari? [[User:Fiky f|Fiky f]] ([[User talk:Fiky f|talk]]) 14:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:[[Individual values#Generation VI|It's not a coincidence]]. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 14:58, 31 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
::I see... I'm sorry,I missed that part on the iv sections [[User:Fiky f|Fiky f]] ([[User talk:Fiky f|talk]]) 15:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
==If Mega Mewtwo is the mega-evolved form of Mewtwo and Mewtwo is a clone Pokemon, than how did Mewtwo exist in prihistoric times== | |||
Can someone tell me? My cousin says that Mewtwo was ALWAYS a Pokemon and not a clone, even in prehistoric time because it's a clone of Mew (did you see the difference between the two?!) --[[User:Beloved.BrokenWings|Beloved.BrokenWings]] ([[User talk:Beloved.BrokenWings|talk]]) 04:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
: It's not true. The lore of the Pokémon series says Mewtwo is a clone. It did not exist until it was created by Giovanni's team. Its Mega Stone was created by the war that led to AZ trying to resurrect his Flowette in the distant past. However, ALL Mega Stones were created this way, by way of the energy from the weapon reacting to normal evolution stones. That it created a Mega Stone that worked on a Pokémon that wouldn't exist for thousands of years is just coincidence. Banette is another Artificial Pokémon with a Mega Evolution. --[[User:KingStarscream|KingStarscream]] ([[User talk:KingStarscream|talk]]) 14:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC) | |||