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==Mew's abilities== | ==Mew's abilities== | ||
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::But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC) | ::But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC) | :::Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span> | ::::Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- [[User:Awar|Awar]] 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC). | :::::It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- [[User:Awar|Awar]] 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC). | ||
::::::Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ::::::Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | :::::Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
~--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
- | === Later discussion === | ||
The Mew Glitch is a perfectly legitimate way to capture Mew, considering the fact that [[Shigeki Morimoto]] programmed it in on purpose. | |||
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]]) | |||
:He didn't program in the Mew glitch; he programmed in the Pokemon Mew itself. The glitch is not intrinsically related to Mew itself; it was only named as such because it happened to become famous for being a non-hacking way to obtain Mew. It doesn't belong in the Game Locations section because literally every Generation I Pokemon (and, to my knowledge, every Gen I glitch Pokemon as well) can be obtained via the glitch. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== I must be insane.... == | == I must be insane.... == | ||
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:Yes, Mew was a "last minute" addition to {{2v2|Red|Green}}. It may have been an early design, but was actually programmed into the game very lately. Unlike {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, there isn't much free space available in Red and Green, because it's only a 512KB cartridge. According to an [http://web.archive.org/web/20101125182143/http://nintendodsi.com/iwata-asks-chapter.jsp?interviewId=6&volumeId=1&chapterId=1 Iwata Asks interview] around the development of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, there were some debugging features remaining in the game, so Morimoto removed those features to create 300 bytes of free space, and then placed some data for Mew in there. This may be supported by the [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation I#Storage|Pokémon base stats structure]], in which Mew's base stats are stored at offset 0x00425B. The base stats data normally follow on by Pokédex entry at 0x0383DE starting from {{p|Bulbasaur}}, yet Mew's base stats data do not follow on from {{p|Mewtwo}}. They do, however in {{game|Yellow}}. I suspect it's probably the same case in Red and Green, though I haven't checked. I personally believe Mew replaced one of the Missingno. occupying index number 21 (0x15). --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | :Yes, Mew was a "last minute" addition to {{2v2|Red|Green}}. It may have been an early design, but was actually programmed into the game very lately. Unlike {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, there isn't much free space available in Red and Green, because it's only a 512KB cartridge. According to an [http://web.archive.org/web/20101125182143/http://nintendodsi.com/iwata-asks-chapter.jsp?interviewId=6&volumeId=1&chapterId=1 Iwata Asks interview] around the development of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, there were some debugging features remaining in the game, so Morimoto removed those features to create 300 bytes of free space, and then placed some data for Mew in there. This may be supported by the [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation I#Storage|Pokémon base stats structure]], in which Mew's base stats are stored at offset 0x00425B. The base stats data normally follow on by Pokédex entry at 0x0383DE starting from {{p|Bulbasaur}}, yet Mew's base stats data do not follow on from {{p|Mewtwo}}. They do, however in {{game|Yellow}}. I suspect it's probably the same case in Red and Green, though I haven't checked. I personally believe Mew replaced one of the Missingno. occupying index number 21 (0x15). --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Chances are Mew was designed well before the time it was put in the game. We already know that Missingno. used to be real Pokémon; Mew was likely one of the deleted 50, then undeleted. Plus, the fact that Mewtwo existed certainly implies it did too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | ::Chances are Mew was designed well before the time it was put in the game. We already know that Missingno. used to be real Pokémon; Mew was likely one of the deleted 50, then undeleted. Plus, the fact that Mewtwo existed certainly implies it did too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
Don't forget that Mew is mentioned in the diaries in Pokemon Mansion. I highly doubt those diaries were programmed into the game at the last minute. Also, Mew had to be the basis of the name and design of Mewtwo, which I also doubt was programmed into the game at the last minute. I suspect the concept for Mew was created already, but not created ''in the game'' until the last minute. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
Also, this quote is incorrectly attributed. The exact quote from the article, in answer to "What is your favorite Pokemon?" is: "SM: Mew. I created Mew two weeks before we were finished developing the original Pokemon game. I owe a lot to Mew." SM being Shigeki Morimoto. I will correct this. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Reveal? == | == Reveal? == | ||
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You can trade a Mew in any country it seems. Both GTS and Union Hall. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 07:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC) | You can trade a Mew in any country it seems. Both GTS and Union Hall. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 07:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Unneeded info == | == Unneeded info == | ||
As you can see, on where you can find Mew in Generation I, crazox99 has added some unneeded info as he was told not to do so and since I can't remove it, I would like to | As you can see, on where you can find Mew in Generation I, crazox99 has added some unneeded info as he was told not to do so and since I can't remove it, I would like to ask if someone could remove the unneeded info that would make Bulbapedia look bad to the people look at the info on the articles. [[User:KoiFish|KoiFish]] ([[User talk:KoiFish|talk]]) 23:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC) | ||
:That was reverted hours ago. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Move tutors == | |||
"mew can learn ''every'' move tutor move except for these 9." to me that just seems a bit silly [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 19:02, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Those nine aren't quite Move Tutor moves in the same way that all the others are. Those nine are exclusive to a very restricted subset of Pokemon, almost like [[signature move]]s (which some of them actually are, though most are not). Saying "all except this special type of Tutor" is briefer and just as informative as the long list you can see by hitting "show". Although I agree, it'd sound nicer if we categorized those nine moves as a distinct subset of Move Tutor moves and just said "Mew can learn every Move Tutor move except {{red link|restricted Move Tutor moves}}" (or whatever we decide to call that subset). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Mew Back Sprite DPPT == | |||
Mew's back sprite in Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum features Mew with yellow/cream circles on the soles of its feet. In HeartGold and SoulSilver, these are purple. Should the alternate back sprite not be provided below at the bottom of the sprite section, as has been done with many other Pokémon with back sprite changes between games in the same generation?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 00:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Google Pokédex == | |||
Is Mew the only Legendary Pokémon that is part of the April Fools' Day 2014's Google Pokédex, or it's not notable? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 03:09, 17 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Black2 White2 Locations? == | |||
Is there a reason that Black and White have two entries each in the in-game locations sections, yet Black2 and White2 are not entered? I do not have the black 2 or white 2 games, so I do not know where/if they can be found in those games. Could someone please enter those? Unless there is some reason for this that I am missing... [[User:8ulb|8ulb]] ([[User talk:8ulb|talk]]) 15:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It was a typo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 15:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
== New 20th Anniversary Artwork == | |||
Since it is clearly Sugimori artwork, and colored/shaded in the style of Game Artwork, should we make it the new artwork of the page? This would be the precedent for all the other Mythical Pokémon as well, who will presumably get their solo artwork posted as well. Thoughts? (Also, it's the cutest Mew artwork to date.) | |||
--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 05:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
:No. The artwork used in the infobox is always the current main game artwork (except for special dates, as noted at the top of each species talk page when applicable). At this time, the artwork is simply promotional for the 20th Anniversary event, not their main artwork. If the promotional artwork for all of the 20th Anniversary Mythical Pokémon eventually become their official main artwork, only then they will be used as the head image in the infobox. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 19:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Well, I'm perfectly fine with proposing we discuss the rest of the Mythical Pokémon but I didn't really bring it up since this is just Mew's page.--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 06:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Mew only obeys when caught in specific place == | |||
i have a very dumb question | |||
if im playing pokemon emerald and i change mew from their original island to, say, the starting town, and i catch them, will they still not obey, even if theyre practically the same? does it really need to be in their specific place to be considered 'legit'? | |||
[[User:Mopbop|Mopbop]] ([[User talk:Mopbop|talk]]) 02:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It needs to be considered a [[fateful encounter]]. That's [[Pokémon data substructures in Generation III#Ribbons and Obedience|a separate flag]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Sun and Moon Pokedex entries? == | |||
Shouldn't there be new Pokedex entries from Sun and Moon? Do we just not have them due to nobody has contributed them? Can't find them elsewhere online either, for Mew or Mewtwo. [[User:Avigor|Avigor]] ([[User talk:Avigor|talk]]) 03:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
:They don't have any, just like the island scan Pokemon. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:23, 24 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Sun and Moon do not have a National Pokedex, and the [[List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number|regional 'dex]] does not include those Pokemon. So they don't have new entries. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:24, 24 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Another possibility for the 1990 ミュー trademark == | |||
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere on this discussion page yet, so I figured I'd bring it up. On the topic of the name trademarks... do we know ''for sure'' if the trademark submitted in 1990 even has anything to do with Pokémon? Like... was the "ミュー" trademark submitted along with other early Pokémon names like the ones seen in some of the early art/beta screenshots, things related to the older "Capsule Monsters" title, or something along those lines? | |||
I ask because there's another Nintendo creature that the "ミュー" trademark could've been for -- there was an enemy named "Myu" in Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link, which released in 1987 in Japan and 1988 in the US. That enemy's name is written as "ミュー" in Japanese according to the Zelda wiki ([https://zeldawiki.org/The_Adventure_of_Link_Translations/Enemies]), just like the 1990 trademark. [[User:FnrrfYgmSchnish|FnrrfYgmSchnish]] ([[User talk:FnrrfYgmSchnish|talk]]) 09:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Including Mew Game Location for Let's Go Eevee And Pikachu == | |||
The Pokeball plus comes with Mew on purchase according to the website and I think that's good evidence for the Pokeball plus to be apart of the Game Locations under Lets Go Pikachu And Eevee. | |||
https://pokeballplus.nintendo.com/ {{unsigned|PixelBytes}} | |||
:Game location info gets added after the games are released.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 11:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Mew's Name Origin == | |||
In biological sciences worldwide, the Greek letter 'μ' (Mu) is used to represent the genetic mutation rate of a given population of organisms under various conditions. | |||
Wouldn't it make more sense to suggest that Mew's name is derived from μ? | |||
Granted, it's probably not incorrect to suggest that it's a derivative of 'mutant' or 'mutation', as that's no doubt why μ was chosen to represent this particular calcuation, but the connection to μ seems much cleaner and more likely. {{unsigned|Wixenstyx}} | |||
:I kind of like that. It fits in with Mew's theme, and it sounds like its name. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 21:00, 10 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Bart == | |||
This isn't very important important (perhaps trivia), but I'm surprised to see no mention of the unused Mew trade in Yellow Version. [[Pokémon Yellow beta#Unused in-game trades]]. The Mew's English name is Bart, which I'm guessing is a play on the name Bartholomew. [[User:Dannyjenn|D]] ([[User talk:Dannyjenn|talk]]) 13:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC) | |||