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== Image for Mega Rayquaza ==

Given that Rayquaza's page has an image for its Mega Evolution, shouldn't this article have one as well? I'd add it in myself, but I am not allowed to edit the page, so could someone add one for me, please? [[User:Uncle Edit|He&#39;s here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 21:17, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

:Bump [[User:Uncle Edit|He&#39;s here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 17:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
::I believe we're waiting for the official artwork to come out before adding it. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 19:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
:::I understand that official artwork take priority before anything else, but why does Rayquaza's page have an image but not this one? It really doesn't make sense to me. Of course, in the event we decide to use said image for both articles, we can remove it once official artwork comes out for Mega Rayquaza. That screen-cap certainly isn't something that we should use permanently. [[User:Uncle Edit|He&#39;s here! The one and only...Uncle Edit!]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 19:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

==Separate Mini-Sections==
I was thinking that if it should come to it ''Pokémon capable of Mega Evolution'' can have the entries split up into two separate mini-sections: ''Introduced in X and Y'' and ''Introduced in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire''. However I would like to wait first until more information comes out first before doing such as thing. If the new Mega Pokémon are confirmed to be incompatible with X and Y then I would definitely support this idea. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 17:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:Nice Idea. But what do you mean "''incompatible''" ? → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color: #0FF">'''''P''ika''T''epig999'''</span>]] 17:18, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::We might or might not get a patch that updated XY with ORAS megas (the only that pre-exist in XY are the Lati@s mega). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:21, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
:::It is also the same as how Pokémon with newer forms that were introduced in Platinum and Black & White 2 were not compatible with the original games (Diamond & Pearl and Black & White). -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 17:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
::::There's not gonna be a patch. So now it will be better if the megas are divided into two sections. → [[User talk:PikaTepig999|<span style="color: #0FF">'''''P''ika''T''epig999'''</span>]] 15:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::You cannot know that. It won't hurt anything to at least wait until ORAS is released. Then we'll at least know exactly what to say about how the Mega evolution compatibility is handled between ORAS and XY. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:47, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

== Ice has two now ==

Fix the trivia [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 13:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:It's fixed. Thanks for the reminder. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 14:45, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::While you're at it, Electric also has the least (2), the same as ice. Fix it, okay?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 15:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::And Psychic has 10, not 9. Dragons have 9 though..--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 15:33, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

== Lati@sites tradeable to XY? ==

Does the game let you trade the Lati@sites over to XY? If so should a little note be added mentioning that these mega-stones are in the code for XY despite not being made available till ORAS? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 01:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

== PokéGods? ==

Is it plausible to assume that some ideas for Mega Evolution might have been inspired by the infamous [[PokéGods]] that were popular in the fandom back in the 1990s and early 2000s? If so, this should be added as trivia. A good source on PokéGods is the RAGECANDYBAR project site ([http://www.blue-reflections.net/ragecandybar/projects/pokegods/ link]). [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 17:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

:No, I don't think so. While the possibility that Game Freak could have possibly been inspired by such rumors may exist, there's zero reason to ASSUME that they were inspired by them, especially since to my knowledge Game Freak has never acknowledged those rumors before. —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 18:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

== I would like to know something... ==

Before I put something like this in the trivia: "Before the introduction of {{p|Lopunny}}'s Mega Evolution in [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], {{p|Meloetta}} in its' [[Pirouette Forme]] was the only Pokémon with a [[unique type combination]] of Normal/Fighting.", does anyone who's reading this it's wise to do so? Oh, and Merry Christmas, Bulbapedia! [[User:IM-T-MAN2|IM-T-MAN2]] ([[User talk:IM-T-MAN2|talk]]) 03:55, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
:No. "Used to be" trivias aren't really notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:05, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
::^I'd replace "really" with "generally" in the above, as there are always exceptions. But in this case, something this narrow/complex would be a bit out-of-place on an article that talks about all of Mega Evolution in general. In addition, it's not exactly unique as there are at least three other Pokémon that had unique type combinations in Gen V but lost them in Gen VI, being Reshiram (Mega Charizard X), Zekrom (Mega Ampharos), and Numel/Camerupt (Primal Groudon). Thanks for asking! [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 04:12, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you, Force Fire. [[User:IM-T-MAN2|IM-T-MAN2]] ([[User talk:IM-T-MAN2|talk]]) 04:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

== Two Things ==

I may be blind, but it looks like it needs to be mentioned how the Mega Evolutions introduces in ORAS are not compatible with XY. However, Latios and Latias are. I'm not really sure the best way to word that so if someone could figured out a way to incorporate that it would be awesome. If I'm blind than I apologize for bringing this up.

Also, this was briefly talked about prior to ORAS release, but should the list of Mega Evolutions be changed a little? Right now it's two lists, the XY ones, and the ORAS ones. However, someone mentioned that we could put all of them in one list and add another column indicating the game they were released in. Thoughts? --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 19:24, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
:I don't think  you're blind, but I think I'm not going to try to fix it (anytime soon).
:I really don't think we "need" to combine the tables, but I can conceive that there may be a benefit to it that doesn't jump out at me right now. Maybe... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

== gen. 5 ==

Genesect and the Legend Awakened is a gen. 5 movie and it has mega evolution in it. just saying. --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 21:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:Yes, and? Mewtwo Strikes Back is a Gen I movie and features over three Gen II Pokemon. Pokemon Heroes is a Gen II movie that features two Gen III Pokemon. And so on and so on. The anime constantly promotes future generations in their movies. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

== In the TCG ==

In the TCG, Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre have the same traits as all other Mega evolutions and so shouldn't they be considering a Mega Evolution in the TCG? [[User:Pokemaniac1337|Pokemaniac1337]] ([[User talk:Pokemaniac1337|talk]]) 15:14, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

== Pokédex Entries From The Sites ==

I think that since the X & Y and Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire sites both included descriptions of the abilities of the Mega Evolutions to their summaries, we should consider adding them. Here's an example of what it would look like. I think it would help round out the page a bit.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 3px solid #{{y color}}; background: #{{x color}}"
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! colspan=3 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | Before Mega Evolution
! colspan=4 style="background: #{{x color light}}" | After Mega Evolution
! rowspan=2 style="background: #{{x color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Mega Stone
|- style="background: #{{x color light}}"
! Image
! Type
! Ability
! Image
! Type
! Ability
! Description
|- style="background:#FFF"
|{{p|Venusaur}}
|[[File:003Venusaur.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Overgrow}}<br>{{a|Chlorophyll}} (Hidden)
|[[File:003Venusaur-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Grass}}{{typecolor|Poison}}
|{{a|Thick Fat}}
|When Venusaur becomes Mega Venusaur, the flower on the Pokémon's back blooms even more fantastically than before. Its legs and frame become more sturdy to support the weight of the huge flower.
|[[File:Dream Venusaurite Sprite.png|80px]]<br>{{DL|Mega Stone|Venusaurite}}
|- style="background:#FFF"

||{{p|Rayquaza}}
|[[File:384Rayquaza.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Air Lock}}
|[[File:384Rayquaza-Mega.png|150px]]
|{{typecolor|Dragon}}{{typecolor|Flying}}
|{{a|Delta Stream}}
|Particles stream from the long filaments that extend from its jutting jaw. These particles can control the density and humidity of the air, allowing Rayquaza to manipulate the weather. Its green hide sparkles with an emerald-like quality.
|[[File:None.png|80px]]<br>None{{tt|*|After Rayquaza swallows the Meteorite during the Delta Episode storyline, any Rayquaza knowing Dragon Ascent can Mega Evolve}}
|- style="background:#FFF"
|}
{{unsigned|BlackButterfree}}
:If they will be added anywhere, it should probably be somewhere on [Venusaur/Rayquaza/etc]'s own page. As it stands, there's not an obvious place they should go there, but the above is not the most attractive option. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::Well, they already are on all of the main Pokémon's pages, but I agree, there's not a uniformed, obvious place where each description should go on their pages, which is maybe why it would be better to put them on this page. And I don't see how it makes the table look uglier. In fact, it fills out a bit. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 16:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Pieces of text that are longer vertically than they are wide are not appealing to read. And at my window width, that's what it is. And even if your screen is really wide, there's not really any sort of need to "fill out" the table... They don't even really fit in the table either IMO; they're just flavor text, whereas everything else in the table is basically useful.
:::The only thing that really matters to me in the end, though, is those descriptions are basically Pokedex entries, so they belong more or less alongside other Pokedex entries (if anywhere), not here. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

== Move Blaziken ==

The special Torchic with the Blazikenite can't be obtained anymore, should we move it to the ORAS section? [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 01:54, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
:No. Despite the event no longer being available, Mega Blaziken was still ''introduced'' in X and Y. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 02:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

== Primals ==

I don't know if this has been mentioned before (please forgive me if it has) but could we combine the Primal & Mega Evolution pages? I just think it would be simpler because 1. Mega Rayquaza is a counterpart to Primal Groudon/Kyogre, 2. Both evolutions need a specific item to activate, and none of those items have additional effects, and 3. Because Groudon and Kyogre have Primals, it's EXTREMELY unlikely that they'll get a Mega Evolution. Although now that I think about it, that goes for Keldeo, Meloetta, and Deoxys to some extent as well... Anyway, what do you think? Thanks, [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 22:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
:[[Primal Reversion]] is pretty different from Mega Evolution. Just read its intro. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:00, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

== M Pokémon EX cards ==

right now i can't edit it but a lot of M Pokémon EX cards are missing from this page

can anybody with the info update this one?--[[User:Kyokencl|kyokencl]] ([[User talk:Kyokencl|talk]]) 03:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

== Table images mucked up by vandal ==

Someone thinks it's funny to change the images around, Beedrill is now Brazil and mega evolves into Portugal, Thank you very much we are all dumber now thanks to you.--[[User:Orange22|Orange22]] ([[User talk:Orange22|talk]]) 22:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? Everything looks normal to me. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:01, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
::This is a known issue on mobile devices. Often the wrong images will be loaded, even though the page itself has the correct images. Unfortunately, we have no way to fix this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
:::Really? Any idea why it happens? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
::::I believe its a caching issue. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:09, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

== Gen IV ==

A system remotely similar to mega evolution introduced in gen IV when magmortar, electivire, magnetzone, dusknoir, gallade, and rhyperior (I might have missed some). It involves trading certain Pokémon whilst they are holding a certain item. However, unlike mega evolution, this change is permanent.{{unsigned|QwertyJacob750}}
:Pokémon have been able to evolve from [[Evolution-inducing held item|holding an item]] ever since it is possible to hold items, so I do not think there is any actual connection to Mega Evolution. [[User:Jazama|Jazama]] ([[User talk:Jazama|talk]]) 23:34, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Revelation ==
Should we start updating Mega Evolution more as Sun and Moon reveled more interesting facts on it, like some of the Pokemon becoming more aggressive for example?--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 21:56, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

== How Mega Evolution has Changed in Pokemon Sun and Moon ==

Shouldn't the page be updated for how now in Pokemon Sun and Moon, Pokemon who are Mega Evolving get their change in speed stats (if applicable, of course) applied immediately like all their other stats, and not one turn later like in Generation 6?--[[User:Rithvikkiran|Rithvikkiran]] ([[User talk:Rithvikkiran|talk]]) 00:42, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

== TCG Card List ==
I don't know how or why this is happening, I checked the coding myself and what the coding says should be happening isn't what is actually happening. The coding for the TCG Card List is where it should be, in the [[Mega Evolution#TCG|TCG]] section. But on the article page, the TCG Card List is actually appearing in the [[Mega Evolution#In Other Languages|In Other Languages]] section. Thought this would be something to be looking into by someone far more experienced than me in coding. I thought it might be my computer personally so I did what I knew to do, refresh the page, followed by purging the page. Nothing changed. [[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 05:20, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
:Someone removed the footer in the last edit. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:44, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
::Something so simple can destroy everything... such a shame LOL [[User:DarienLeonhart|DarienLeonhart]] ([[User talk:DarienLeonhart|talk]]) 05:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

== LGP and LGE ==

How does Mega Evolution work in LGP and LGE? If there's no held items, how can Pokémon Mega Evolve? Am I the only one who's confused about this? Please clarify... [[User:Striker212|Striker212]] ([[User talk:Striker212|talk]]) 15:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
:They're battle items. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] ([[User talk:Johans|talk]]) 16:03, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
::Battle items? Not sure what that means...but anyway, nothing about LGP and LGE is in this article, so could someone please add that? [[User:Striker212|Striker212]] ([[User talk:Striker212|talk]]) 02:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
:::They can be used by a Pokémon as long as the corresponding mega Stone is present in the bag.[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

== Effect of mega Evolution on the ability to use a Z-move ==

I find no information pertaining to whether mega evolution affects the ability to use a [[Z-Move]] in any way. Does this mean the trainer can both mega evolve a Pokémon and unleash a Z-Move in the same battle? Please reply.[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 01:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:You need to hold a mega stone for mega evolution, while you need to hold a z-crystal for z-moves. there is no way you can hold two items at once, so it is either mega evolution or z-moves. Rayquaza cannot use z-moves if it mega evolves. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 02:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
::If you're asking if it's possible to both Mega Evolve and use a Z-Move in the same battle with two different Pokémon, then yes, it is possible.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 02:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:::Yes Rahl. Thanks for the info.[[User:Elite4Alola|&#91;&#91;Elite4Alola&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Elite4Alola|talk]]) 03:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)