16,517
edits
Talk:Magikarp (Pokémon): Difference between revisions
m
→Japanese Magikarp
(→Mistake in the trivia: new section) |
|||
| (41 intermediate revisions by 30 users not shown) | |||
| Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
Does the Magikarp from the Magikarp salesman in the Pokémon Center by Mt. Moon have any advantages over a regular Magikarp? | {{Rotating art}} | ||
== Magikarp Salesman == | |||
Does the Magikarp from the Magikarp salesman in the Pokémon Center by Mt. Moon have any advantages over a regular Magikarp? [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">S</span><span style="color: #997722">h</span><span style="color: #BB9944">i</span><span style="color: #DDBB66">n</span><span style="color: #FFDD88">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 00:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
Well, you don't need to bother fishing? :P --[[User: Vladek|Vladek]] | Well, you don't need to bother fishing? :P --[[User: Vladek|Vladek]] | ||
:Yeah, and by fishing you waste {{PDollar}}200, while an estimate (to me) the idiot sells you Magikarp for {{PDollar}}500... | :Yeah, and by fishing you waste {{PDollar}}200, while an estimate (to me) the idiot sells you Magikarp for {{PDollar}}500... '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup> 10:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
::But does it have any other advantages, besides not having to fish? | ::But does it have any other advantages, besides not having to fish? [[User:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">S</span><span style="color: #997722">h</span><span style="color: #BB9944">i</span><span style="color: #DDBB66">n</span><span style="color: #FFDD88">y</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|<span style="color: #775500">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 12:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::I really doubt that, and I think that the scammer shown in the anime that keeps on selling Magikarp is based on that guy. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 21:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC) | :::I really doubt that, and I think that the scammer shown in the anime that keeps on selling Magikarp is based on that guy. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 21:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::Well, that Magikarp really doesn't have any advantages both in the animé and in the game, as far as I tested. The stats are the same <strike>useless</strike> ones, and the animé one is useless, as far as James is concerned. XD [[User:Sang'gre Habagat|Sang'gre Habagat]] | ::::Well, that Magikarp really doesn't have any advantages both in the animé and in the game, as far as I tested. The stats are the same <strike>useless</strike> ones, and the animé one is useless, as far as James is concerned. XD [[User:Sang'gre Habagat|Sang'gre Habagat]] | ||
:::::Well, remember. You can't get the Old Rod until Vermilion, you spend at least {{PDollar}}200 on Poké Balls, which don't have a sure chance of nabbing it, and then you have to train that Magikarp while training for an upcoming match with a {{ | :::::Well, remember. You can't get the Old Rod until Vermilion, you spend at least {{PDollar}}200 on Poké Balls, which don't have a sure chance of nabbing it, and then you have to train that Magikarp while training for an upcoming match with a {{type|Electric}} Gym Leader. So yes, there is an advantage. You get all of the extra time to train the Karp. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 04:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::::Haha. You've got a point, TTEchidna. ^^ [[User:Sang'gre Habagat|Sang'gre Habagat]] 07:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ::::::Haha. You've got a point, TTEchidna. ^^ [[User:Sang'gre Habagat|Sang'gre Habagat]] 07:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::::It is done so you can get {{p|Gyarados}} before getting the fishing rod. | :::::::It is done so you can get {{p|Gyarados}} before getting the fishing rod. [[User:ZanderX|<span style="color: #332303">Z</span><span style="color: #0080FF">a</span><span style="color: #332303">n</span><span style="color: #0080FF">d</span><span style="color: #332303">e</span><span style="color: #0080FF">r</span>]] 12:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::::But what's the use? You know Magikarp's useless. It takes a while to train it. So just wait for the fishing rod, I say! You get the rod for free, go and fish! The Pokemon near the Magikarp salesmen are too tough for training a Magikarp. [[User:FireHazard|FireHazard]] 01:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::::::But what's the use? You know Magikarp's useless. It takes a while to train it. So just wait for the fishing rod, I say! You get the rod for free, go and fish! The Pokemon near the Magikarp salesmen are too tough for training a Magikarp. [[User:FireHazard|FireHazard]] 01:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::Magikarp does suck, but it evolves into a Gyarados which is a powerful Pokémon. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::::::Magikarp does suck, but it evolves into a Gyarados which is a powerful Pokémon. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 12:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::Actually, I find that with enough patience and training, you can evolve the Mt. Moon Magikarp before reaching Bill's house at the earliest. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> | ::::::::::Actually, I find that with enough patience and training, you can evolve the Mt. Moon Magikarp before reaching Bill's house at the earliest. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> | ||
== " How do you need that cited? It's the very first foreign dex entry you get." == | == " How do you need that cited? It's the very first foreign dex entry you get." == | ||
| Line 75: | Line 79: | ||
:I was about to ask the same thing. Seriously, a claim such as this should be backed-up thoroughly. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | :I was about to ask the same thing. Seriously, a claim such as this should be backed-up thoroughly. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
::I know that I'm posting this three years later, but I just tried the glitch and it is real. It's a Select button glitch like the Dokokashira door glitch. What you do is put a Magikarp into the 1st slot in your party, then go into Items and press Select on the 13th item, then press B twice. Then get into a battle and go to switch Pokémon, and press A next to Magikarp. It will become Mew. However, I would highly advise against doing this (especially now that the Mew glitch allows you to get a Mew), as this causes major glitches and messes up the Pokédex, items, and possibly other things. Mew's name becomes a string of seemingly random characters, and (on my game at least), her ID No. and Original Trainer change as well so you can't rename her. She does not have Mew's attacks (I don't know what determines her attacks... in my game she got Fire Punch). I'm not sure if her stats are correct or not, but her HP is glitched, and she has a ton of experience (sending her into battle will level her up to level 101). | |||
::Glitches to the Pokédex include the following: | |||
::- Some Pokémon that you've never seen become registered as seen, and some become registered as owned | |||
::- Some Pokémon that you have owned become registered as not being owned, or not being seen | |||
::- Some Pokémon that you've seen become registered as owned, or not being seen | |||
::- Some empty spaces become registered as owned (you can't view the Pokédex entries for them though) | |||
::- Mew does not show up in the Pokédex... instead slot No. 151 becomes registered as owned, but remains an empty space | |||
::- A slot No. 152 appears as seen with the name ketsuban (MissingNo.) next to it. When viewed, it displays as No. 000 | |||
::As for items... the item in the first slot becomes glitched. Also, you can go below the Cancel button. There, the screen starts to get glitchy. You can view items you don't have (some can even be used), and you can see some of the beta items (Coin and ?????) and items that don't exist (they're just made up of random characters and glitched symbols) [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 18:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Edit - I was just playing around with this glitch some more... it turns out that you can turn any Pokémon in your party into Mew as long as Magikarp is the first Pokémon on the list. Also, supposedly it doesn't even need to be Magikarp, just any Pokémon with either Water as its only type or Water as its second type (although I haven't tried it with anyone other than Magikarp). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 19:07, 15 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, it's a select button glitch documented from old Japanese select button glitch websites. {{user|Meowth346}} made a brief reference to it on the Azure Heights forums [http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001124;p= back in 2001]. Since the glitch was [http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/924467-pokemon-green/49402241 mentioned] on GameFAQs by a "gunbladelad77", Paco81 and I tried to get the glitch to work last April, but we weren't able to get it to work (since we don't have a real {{2v2|Red|Green}} cartridge or a [[Pokémon Blue (Japanese)|Japanese Blue]] cartridge). The game would freeze on the part when swapping the thirteenth item. Relatively recently "ginothepro" made that video on Youtube and posted a thread about it on the [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,6421.0.html GCL forums]. As the glitch seems to manipulate large portions of the Pokédex data, you likely won't be able to get {{p|Mew}} registered in the Pokédex, so you're much better off with something like the fossil conversion glitch. | |||
:::The Pokémon actually depends on the index number of the second type; meaning that you can use it to obtain other Pokémon such as Kangaskhan by using the Flying type (both {{p|Kangaskhan}} and the Flying type share an index number of 0x02). Unfortunately, while "ginothepro" and yourself got it to work on a real game, I still haven't been able to emulate it. However, I got the glitch to work using a slightly different method. I'll expand the section you added to [[list of glitches in Generation I]] and emphasize that it can be used with different types. For reference, I'll attach both videos, including my alternative method (I'd greatly appreciate if you could test it!). I've added some additional information in the comments. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 21:33, 17 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
{{youtubevid|vAmtvubMvMQ|ginothepro|Normal}} - Original method | |||
{{youtubevid|nDdALql7994|ChickasaurusGL|Normal}} - Alternative method | |||
Well I've now created an article about this glitch at [[second type glitch]]. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 00:34, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Cool. I'll try your method when I get the chance (I can't now, as my batteries have just leaked in my Game Boy and I need to clean it out and replace them). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 02:01, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for this. :) We really need to know if it works on a real console. I'm sorry to hear about your Game Boy :/, good luck on cleaning it out. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 02:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia == | == Trivia == | ||
| Line 113: | Line 139: | ||
"The Pokédex entries for Magikarp in Gold version and Platinum version contradict each other; Gold version says that Magikarp never jumps more than seven feet, whereas Platinum version states that it may jump over a mountain." | "The Pokédex entries for Magikarp in Gold version and Platinum version contradict each other; Gold version says that Magikarp never jumps more than seven feet, whereas Platinum version states that it may jump over a mountain." | ||
Gold version is saying it cannot jump more than seven feet HIGH, where as Platinum version explains that it jumps over a mountain over the course of multiple years, as in, while never jumping more than seven feet high at a time, it makes its way over the mountain in multiple jumps. And by multiple, I mean thousands. So anyways, they're not contradicting each other, they're stating two different points. Jump height, and determination. | Gold version is saying it cannot jump more than seven feet HIGH, where as Platinum version explains that it jumps over a mountain over the course of multiple years, as in, while never jumping more than seven feet high at a time, it makes its way over the mountain in multiple jumps. And by multiple, I mean thousands. So anyways, they're not contradicting each other, they're stating two different points. Jump height, and determination.<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Notafan}} ([[User talk:Notafan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Notafan|contribs]]) ''</small> | ||
:what? I'm pretty sure that the Platinum entry says that a Magikarp that ''already'' lived for a bunch of years (as in, an old one) can jump over a mountain, not that it jumps over it over the course of several years.--'''[[Water (type)|<font color="#6890F0">Liquid</font>]]''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="#6890F0">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 12:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Perhaps, in the games' canon, the old Magikarp-Splash-over-a-mountain thing was a recent discovery. Also, the Gold entry doesn't specifically mention Splash, whereas this one does. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] <small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]</small> 13:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Since it's locked... == | |||
..., I'll just dump this here. | |||
HG Johto-side locations: Routes 30, 31, 32, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45 and 47, Olivine City, Ruins of Alph, Lake of Rage, Whirl Islands, Ilex Forest, Ecruteak City, Ragged Cliff Gate, Violet City, Dark Cave, Mt. Mortar, Cianwood City, Union Cave, Blackthorn City, Slowpoke Well, Cherrygrove City, Dragon's Den, New Bark Town. | |||
<font color="#3fff00">'''UltimateSephiroth'''</font> <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 12:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Edit Request 2 == | |||
I have noticed that {{p|Seedot}} and {{p|Pichu}} are the easiest [[Pokemon]] to capture in [[Pokemon Ranger]]. But I played the game and Magikarp has the same easinesst. Can anyone fix this? Please and thank you--[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] 05:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Should we... == | |||
Mention the meme "Use splash attak!" in the trivia? For those who don't know, its a looped video of Red and Blue battling with two magikarp that only know splash. I figured we should mention it since we mentioned "So I Heard You Liek Mudkipz". [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 17:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:It's not really as popular as the "mudkipz" meme. I don't think it should be added. - [[User:PikaThunder|PikaThunder]] • [[User Talk:PikaThunder|PT's Talk]] - 19:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Edit request 3 == | |||
Shouldn't it be noted that before Gen. IV when it could learn bounce from move tutors, Magikarp couldn't damage any Ghost Types before? | |||
Several other articles like Weedle and Caterpie has this as trivia.[[User:Naui|Naui]] 00:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
Case and point, Magikarp has never been able to learn bounce by TM, move tutor, or breeding. However as of Generation V it is able to learn it only from Dream World. So no. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 00:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:It could learn it from the HGSS Move Tutor in Gen IV. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''P S Y'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 00:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::Just noticed that, kind of funny how it can't learn it in Generation V though. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 00:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Base exp might be wrong == | |||
So on the experience page it said that magikarp used to have the lowest base exp at 20 but now the unova starters have the lowest base exp with 28 yet magikarps base exp is still listed as 20 on this page. Should this be fixed? [[User:FrankTheTank000|FrankTheTank000]] 16:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Gen II, Fishing Guru == | |||
How is the size of a Magikarp determined? This 'size' is measured by the Fishing Guru near Lake of Rage in Gen II. Any knowledge or should I start testing? --[[User:Black Eagle|Black Eagle]] 22:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not sure what you're trying to ask per se, but it's all about luck. There's no way you could check the height of the Magikarp (unless it's within the game code, in which you still can't look at it unless you hack into it.) to my knowledge... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 04:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Name Origin== | |||
I think the name origin for Magikarp's English name is wrong. While Magikarp does have a corrupted spelling of the word 'magic' in it, I am pretty sure the name is actually a combination of 'majestic' and 'carp'. Magikarp's Japanese name is a combination of 'carp' (Koi 鯉) and 'king' which plays on both the irony of Magikarp's usefulness and the Chinese legend that surround Magikarp and Gyarados (recently recapped in [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species:_Magikarp| this Bulbapedia article]). I believe that there is enough evidence to assume that the name Magikarp is a similar play on words. Also, the reasoning in the name origin now doesn't really make sense. [[User:Noah★|Noah★]] ([[User talk:Noah★|talk]]) 03:15, 10 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
- Hi, I would like to bust a myth : Magicarpe come from "carp" and the latin "magister" (which give "master") or more generally "magis". His name origin is basically the same than the japanese "king carp". [[User:Hido|Hido]] ([[User talk:Hido|talk]]) 21:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Japanese Magikarp == | |||
For BW/BW2 there was a magikarp event in japan and it knew hydro pump. Putting that out there. | |||
[[User:Pikachu3634|Pikachu3634]] ([[User talk:Pikachu3634|talk]]) 03:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It's already on the article. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 03:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC) | |||