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== Attack or status? ==
Does this move reflect the actual attack, or just the status? If I use this and get hit by Confusion, does the damage go back too? And who's stats does it use? And is it the same chance of the Status Ailment, or is it modified? --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 06:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:Just statuses. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 06:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

:: Okay because it says "It reflects moves that inflict a Status ailment", so I figured I'd ask. It would be tricky to reword it to say only the Status is reflected without it being very lengthy... something like "If the foe uses an attack that can cause a Status Ailment, Magic Coat reflects the ailment back to the foe" might do the trick. It might also be worth mentioning that it is increased priority. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 08:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah. We could categorize all of the moves by their effect... possibly. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 15:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

::::That's not what I meant. I was saying we need to change the description because it says it reflects the attack, not the ailment. But anyways, isn't that already done? Yes, yes it is. They're under "List of moves that _____". I guess I should make a "List of Moves by Effect" page that at least links them all together. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 16:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Same turn? ==
When are attacks reflected? Do the attacks have to be used on the same turn as Magic Coat, or does the user "wear" the Magic Coat for a few more turns? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 20:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

:: The move has a priority of +4, so I'm assuming it'll only have an effect in the round it's used (since pretty much every move has a lower priority than it). ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 18:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

== Statuses ==
What statuses are reflected? Just major status effects, or is confusion and infatuation, etc, reflected too? [[User:Talonos|Talonos]] 01:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Riolu/Lucario ==

They don't seem to actually learn it. I've checked with other Pokémon to make sure which Tutor actually has Magic Coat, but he doesn't seem to offer it for Riolu OR Lucario.
Just saying. --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 18:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== "Move tutor" section edit ==

In the section of Pokémon that learn by move tutoring in HGSS, '''Azelf''' has, instead, the tiny image of '''Gallade'''. Is it possible for someone to change this?
I don't know how, neither if I'm able to...
--[[User:Konoma|Konoma]] 20:24, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Teeter Dance ==
This says that Magic Coat reflects Teeter Dance after Gen V, but this doesn't happen in Gen VI.  Was it changed again, or is that incorrect?
[[User:Hidden|Hidden]] ([[User talk:Hidden|talk]]) 05:27, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
:I think that was incorrect, so thanks for pointing it out. I've removed it. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

== Additional UPC information ==

UPC [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=277.html has some info] about weird GenIV-only specifics (such as how positioning apparently matters for multi-target moves, or how Soundproof takes precedence), as well as Rotation Battle specifics (that I don't fully understand). So, if anyone's feels this should be in the article, feel free. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:31, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

== List of affected moves ==

The moves affected in Generation VII are:
*Attract
*Baby-Doll Eyes
*Block
*Captivate
*Charm
*Confide
*Confuse Ray
*Cotton Spore
*Dark Void
*Defog
*Disable
*Eerie Impulse
*Embargo
*Encore
*Entrainment
*Fake Tears
*Feather Dance
*Flash
*Flatter
*Floral Healing
*Foresight
*Forest’s Curse
*Gastro Acid
*Glare
*Grass Whistle
*Growl
*Heal Block
*Heal Pulse
*Hypnosis
*Kinesis
*Leech Seed
*Leer
*Lovely Kiss
*Mean Look
*Metal Sound
*Miracle Eye
*Noble Roar
*Odor Sleuth
*Parting Shot
*Play Nice
*Poison Gas
*Poison Powder
*Powder
*Purify
*Roar
*Sand Attack
*Scary Face
*Screech
*Simple Beam
*Sing
*Sleep Powder
*Smokescreen
*Soak
*Spider Web
*Spikes
*Spite
*Spore
*Spotlight
*Stealth Rock
*Sticky Web
*Strength Sap
*String Shot
*Stun Spore
*Supersonic
*Swagger
*Sweet Kiss
*Sweet Scent
*Tail Whip
*Taunt
*Tearful Look
*Telekinesis
*Thunder Wave
*Tickle
*Topsy-Turvy
*Torment
*Toxic
*Toxic Spikes
*Toxic Thread
*Trick-or-Treat
*Venom Drench
*Whirlwind
*Will-O-Wisp
*Worry Seed
*Yawn
--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:56, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

== Transcribing details from magic bounce's page ==

There are currently a lot of details that are on magic bounce's page (in the effects section) but not this one. Do all of them apply to magic coat? Can I transcribe them over? Also, is it true that bounced moves act as if the magic coat user is using them, so for example, they'd consider the magic coat user's accuracy changes, compound eyes, and wide lens? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
:I just noticed that part about {{a|Magic Bounce}}'s effect too. The effects are likely the same, but I can't be sure about that, and also don't know if someone else would be. If no one can answer that, we may have to test all those effects to be sure. I just added a research template to the article for that purpose.
:About the bounced moves acting as being used  by the user of Magic Coat, I only vaguely remember having seen that somewhere. If you know where it says so, it would be good. Otherwise, well, it's just one more thing to test. [[User:Suic12-|Suic12-]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 14:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)