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==Gender?==
Well, since the link won't work...one of the new scans has Lucario as being a male Pokemon. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

==Lucario? Rukario?==

I see most places refering to this Pokémon as "Rukario", but we're calling it Lucario. Anyone explain the name differences?

Hepburn Romaji has Rukario. The [http://www1.ipdl.ncipi.go.jp/TM0/TM1/0502/220041035610000000000000000000000000000000_TM_simple.html trademark filings] and logical thinking (what's Rukario backwards? Orikaru - '''Oracle''') have Lucario. - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 10:49, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey now that we got the full imaqge up at BMG of Rukario..why don't we upload it here? I'd do it but I don't know how to show an image on here.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 14:59, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also, if you figure that Rugia -> Lugia, Ratiosu -> Latios, Ratiosu -> Latias, and even Deoxys, chances are Lucario will be the English name.  But I fall back on "Lucario" being the spelling applied for trademark. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

I'd like to point out that "orikaru" doesn't mean anything in Japanese. Oracle = Orakuru. [[User:Noxaengelus|Noxaengelus]] 07:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

==Wave-Guiding?==
Where does this "wave-guiding" species come from?  Since day one, I've been translating its species as "Pulse" or "Surge".  Is there something I've been missing? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

I think this is another blame Serebii.net moment, probably. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]]

It has to do with the kanji.  Hadou (波動) is indeed "pulse" or "surge" (literally "wave movement"), but the title of the movie, which we assume uses the same word as Rukario's species, has 波導, which is not a word, and the second kanji of which means "guide" or "lead". - [[User:Murgatroyd|Murgatroyd]] 00:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Could Lucario be an evolution of Marowak? I know it may seem nuts as it isn't ground, but maybe this is what an unmasked Marowak looks like. They both center around death, have Bone Rush, and have the same general body shape (though Lucario is snazzier with spikes and all.) 
--[[User:123456789|123456789]]

It '''is''' nuts!  It's more ridiculuos than the theory of {{p|Lotad}}'s lily pad unfolding to reveal a a dinosaur-like head.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 10:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...how could people have forgotten that the skull-helmet on a Marowak magically makes its skin turn from blue to brown, and makes it shrink? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

==Just pick a name and stick with it==
Please stop switching the attack name back and forth from 'Feint' to 'Faint'.  It's going nowhere - I would encourage that this issue be discussed, rather than people editing back and forth between the two forever. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 13:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's definitely Feint. It's obvious from the attack description. Just because [[Faint Attack]] (which I firmly believe is a misspelling on the part of NoA, the Japanese means ''surprise attack'' or ''sneak attack'', ''feint'' is a better fit than ''faint'') exists and is similar... - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 13:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::''Faint'' Attack always confused me. I knew the description of the attack was like ''feint'', but the word ''faint'' unconsciously makes me think the attacking Pokémon fakes passing out to trick the opponent. --[[User:Argy|Argy]] 16:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I always figured it had something to do with the Pokémon vanishing into the shadows, as it seems to do in the animation - basically, its image becomes faint. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 19:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Yeah, but the attack description on that says, "Draws the foe close, then strikes without fail.", so I really have no idea what the animation is supposed to mean. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 06:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Well, in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], the animation for Faint Attack is merely {{m|Double Team}} plus the user's taunt pose.

== Smash Video ==

Here is a video that I found. I think it's real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZh2oWZacm4 [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 00:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:...Chyea it's real!<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 00:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::Cool, it looks like it's Final Smash is an [[Aura]] Blast or something....and yea, it's real. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 01:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it is Hyper Beam. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 01:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, it was defiently something that had to do with [[Aura]]. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 01:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::His final Smash is called Flash Cannon, information received from The Super Mario Wiki<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:09, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

B = Aura spire, side B Extreme Speed, Up B High Jump Kick, Down B = Counter and FS = Flash Cannon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 02:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[http://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl#Characters here]<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A09FF8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

No it has too be Aura Spire. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 04:07, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:Internal data calls it "Wavestorm" and the trophy description confirms that it uses aura. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 21:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Better then Hyper beam. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 01:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, someone needs to clear this up. Since I have Brawl, and I play Lucario almost exclusively, I'll post his special moves:
:B: Aura Sphere. Charge-up ranged attack (like Samus' Charge Beam). Like most of Lucario's attacks, it gets stronger as he takes damage. 
:Side-B: Force Palm. Very short-ranged beam-like attack; changes to a stronger attack when an opponent is inside Grab range (Lucario actually grabs the opponent before slugging them, and I'm pretty sure the grab from the close-up hits will pass through Shields). 
:Up-B: Extremespeed. Similar to the Star Fox characters' Up-B moves, only it does no damage and you have some control over Lucario's movement after he starts moving (oddly, Pikachu's Quick Attack does damage even though it's weaker than Extremespeed in the Pokémon games). 
:Down-B: Double Team. A counter move that lasts about 4-5 seconds; If anyone attacks Lucario during the first 1-2 seconds of the move, Lucario will teleport behind them and do a sliding kick (like Mario's running Side-A attack). Moves won't be countered during the last 2-3 seconds of the move. 
:Final Smash: Aura Storm. Lucario shouts "Watch the power of Aura" (or something like that) and jumps up into the air, damaging any enemies in his path. He floats in midair while charging the attack, then fires a large beam that lasts for about 10 seconds; the beam can be aimed before it's fired, and it can be moved during the attack's duration (moves slowly, though). 
Hopefully this will clear up any confusion about his special moves in SSBB. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== A possible mistake. ==

"This makes it the first non-legendary Pokémon to be in a central role in a Pokémon movie."

If I'm not mistaken, weren't the Unown the central focus of the third movie?  I could be wrong about that, so I didn't make any alterations to the line I quoted. [[User:Eeveeman133|Eeveeman133]] 09:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Nah, Entei was. Though... eh, you do have us with that one. I think it's pretty much that before LMM came out everyone figured Lucario was legendary, but with P3 everyone was like "Oh, Entei, we know that's legendary and Unown's that piece of crap that comes in 26 flavors." '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::It was a co-central role, and so was Unown so...{{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|09:35 11 Mar 2008}}}'''

Along that note, why is Lickitung noted in this article as being just as rare as Togekiss and Lucarios?--[[User:Wytsalvy|wytsalvy]] 14:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Rechanging something in Trivia ==

It says in the Trivia that "Lucario is the first Fighting-type Pokémon to be a fighter in the Super Smash Bros. series." But isn't it also the first Steel-Type pokemon that's a fighter in Super Smash Bros.?

Well it isn't as significant because Lucario is the first ''fighting'' type in a ''fighting'' game.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 18:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Aura Sphere Contradiction ==

Why is it that aura sphere is never surpose to miss in the Pokemon games but can easily miss in Brawl? Even Lucario's trophy says it never misses.
:Swift can miss because people dodge it, too. It's Brawl! '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:The so-called "never miss" moves hardly ever hit in the Anime either. And the designers seem to have forgotten what "Will never miss" means since Generation I; Before Generation II, Swift would hit an opponent even if it was using Dig or Fly, but it wouldn't hit anyone who was using moves like that from Generation II onward! [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Brawl voice ==

Does anybody know who voices Lucario in Brawl?[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 04:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The same voice as Goku in DBZ. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 18:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:It's Bill Rogers... Sean Schemmel isn't even in the credits. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:00, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::He means, the other person to have voiced Goku, Dan Green. - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]

== Name origin ==

Since my former ideas are completely unrelated, I've deleted them <small>(if you're curious, just check the recent history)</small>. The thing is, after much brainstorming and an accidental look at a Yu-Gi-Oh pic, I finally found the origin of Lucario's name. It's part of the word {{wp|orichalcum}} with the kana in reverse. <small>'''(Note: In the following explanation, silent letters will be italicized)'''</small> While the standard Japanese spelling is オリハルコン (ori''c''halcon), the latin form is written as オリカルクム (oric''h''alcum), which in reverse is ムクルカリオ (muculuc''h''ario), then we take out the first two kana and get ルカリオ (luc''h''ario) or simply Lucario. The name makes sense, given Lucario's ancient/mythological design basis, and more particularly, its Steel type. So, if there aren't any objections, I'll be adding my theory as a main explanation. An easier wording would help, though. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 01:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Lucario in Brawl ==

Should we add that Lucario is the only Playable Pokemon in brawl not from The 1st Generation? [[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 17:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:Eh. We did it with Pichu, so why not? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
::I thought aboute it again , The Pokemon Trainer is red With His Gen 3 Design , So should that trivia be replaced .[[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 02:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:::The trivia about Red should only go on Red's page, or the Brawl page, not Lucario. And that trivia is already on them, so... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

== Error under Special Ablities ==

"Lucario are also able ^ understand human speech,etc." ^to --[[User:JasonTongRulz|♪ Jason Tong ♪]] 08:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:Fix it then! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 10:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::That would require an admin. The page has been protected, presumably to prevent gun-jumping/speculatory trivia relating to the new Gen V Pokémon announced, given that Lucario was the first Gen IV announced. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 22:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Munchlax was the first.  [[User:Taromon777|<span style="color:turquoise; font-family:Arial Black">'''''Taromon'''''</span>]] 18:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah it was protected--[[User:JasonTongRulz|♪ Jason Tong ♪]] 05:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
:All done. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 08:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== OK ==

Why the crap was this protected in the first place?! [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 00:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:Look in the previous section. Some people thought Zoroark might be an evolution of Lucario (back when all we had was a silhouette). I do agree that it can be unprotected now, though. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, a year is way too harsh... [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Tan">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green color light">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 01:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== Mistranslation ==

I think i remember hearing somewhere that it's name was mistranslated once, although i can't remember where. Any information on this? [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 23:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:What??  Plz elaborate. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 00:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Priority moves ==
It can learn {{m|Feint}}, {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Vacuum Wave}}, {{m|ExtremeSpeed}}, {{m|Bullet Punch}} - five of 11 +1 [[priority]] moves. And as well {{m|Helping Hand}}, {{m|Protect}}, {{m|Detect}}, {{m|Endure}}, {{m|Follow Me}}, which makes 10 of 20 increased priority moves in total. It appears this is the biggest number for single pokemon, however I'm too lazy to check it. [[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 16:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:What about Smeargle? It can learn 20 of 20 and 12 of 11 + 1. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig's</font>]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|<font color="#FF7F00">A-B-Cs</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] |  [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 16:08, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:: {{p|Smeargle}} differs from other pokemon [[Sketch_(move)|too much]] in learning moves. Usually trivia like this have notice "with the exception of Smeargle". --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 04:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Can it still learn {{m|Water Pulse}}? ==

It's no longer in the TM list. --[[User talk:Venomoth|☯ ]][[User:Venomoth|*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ*]][[User talk:Venomoth| ☯]] 05:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Film Gender ==

This page refers to Lucario as '''her''', but [[Lucario (movie 8)|its character page]] refers to Lucario as male, which, if any, is correct? [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 23:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:A user recently changed all the genders to female. It seems that particular edit was missed when things were being undone. It should be back to normal now. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 23:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

== Speed ==

Should we add that lucario is fastest non-legendary steel type? jomphol 04:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

:{{p|Aianto|He is not}}.  --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 10:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
oh sorry i see from chart at serebi.