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 So, what known Gen VI moves have unknown index numbers at this point, if any? Have we got 'em all? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 :Yeah, since we can dump pkx's again, Kaphotics got Hold Back's index. There are still a few moves that we know exist due to the Lumiose Hotel (and I think there was another place that spoiled some moves) that we don't have indices of, but all obtainable moves have known indices. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
-::Just notice the 617 [[Light of Ruin]] is added to the list... I was guessing it was 607 or something... I'm wondering why shouldn't we get the index number for [[Hyperspace Hole]] and [[Steam Eruption]]? -- If someone who can dump pkx's could use save editor to unlock the last two pokemons... -- [[User:anping87|Ping]] ([[User talk:anping87|talk]]) 16:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
+::Just notice the 617 {{m|Light of Ruin}} is added to the list... I was guessing it was 607 or something... I'm wondering why shouldn't we get the index number for {{m|Hyperspace Hole}} and {{m|Steam Eruption}}? -- If someone who can dump pkx's could use save editor to unlock the last two pokemons... -- [[User:anping87|Ping]] ([[User talk:anping87|talk]]) 16:03, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
+::: Okay my bad... I didn't notice we have them added already...T_T -- [[User:anping87|Ping]] ([[User talk:anping87|talk]]) 16:56, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 == Shadow Rush index number in Colosseum ==
 Section 28b of [http://www.ppnstudio.com/maker/PokemonMakerHelp.txt this help file] has a list of moves by index number, and it gives move #356 as being {{m|Shadow Rush}} for Colosseum, not {{m|Shadow Blitz}}. This makes some sense, since Shadow Rush is the only Shadow move in Colosseum, but I can't confirm its index number myself. Could someone else? If it is 356 in Colosseum, perhaps a note should be added next to 357 and/or before the table. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:14, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
+== Generation VI Contest Type Changes ==
+From Generation IV to Generation VI, 97 moves, primarily from Generation IV, [[List_of_modified_moves#Contest_category_changes|changed contest types]]. Obviously, the policy of this page so far has been to add an asterisk detailing the difference, but that would mean turning Generation IV's moves into a field of asterisks. Since this is a fairly unprecedented degree of change, I was hoping the administration could weigh in as to what the policy will be on noting these changes. [[User:Amperglyph|Amperglyph]] ([[User talk:Amperglyph|talk]]) 07:34, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
+:Ah it's great to be back after more than a month.  Anyway, this is a question that should be asked on [[User talk:Kogoro|Kogoro's Talk page]].  Kogoro is our Editor-in-Chief.  I do agree.  After all, a field of asterisks wouldn't be very pleasant.  --[[User:Rikeo|<span style="color:Green">リック</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Rikeo|<span style="color:Red">EO</span>]] ([[User talk:Rikeo|<span style="color:#FE2E2E"><small>Wish me a Merry Xmas</small></span>]]) 07:44, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
+On the topic of Generation VI and contest data, I propose that the table look like the one in my sandbox at [[User:Ribose/s/List of moves]]. It has the changes I list there, and includes the Generation VI contest data in the same way the Learnset tables do. I left the stars as they were on the current page. Maybe we can discuss more how to represent pre-Generation VI data without resorting to a star next to each move. I mean, it already lists pre-Generation VI data for PP, type, power, and accuracy changes, and in my honest opinion the stars should be dropped and the page used to list the current list of moves as they are now. My reasoning is every generation will just add more stars (this one would add a whole bunch for contest changes, as you point out). Perhaps separate pages for previous generations? To be honest, if I was playing an old game, I'd love to have a non-star-filled list of moves that is current upon first inspection ("List of moves (generation I)", "List of moves (generation II)", etc). Then we can see a Generation III page with all the old contest data, and a Generation IV page with the Super Contest data. <b>~ [[User:Ribose|<span style="color:green" title="user">Ribose</span>]] · [[User talk:Ribose|<span style="color:blue" title="talk">talk</span>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Ribose|<span style="color:blue" title="contributions">cntr</span>]] ·</b> 20:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
+== Unreleased Moves and Contests ==
+Okay, so presently there are six unreleased moves: Hyperspace Hole, Steam Eruption, Thousand Arrows, Thousand Waves, Light of Ruin, and Hyperspace Fury. This chart gives the Contest Category for four of the six moves. My question is: Where does this information come from? From what I can tell from searching the Internet, the only place that has that information listed is Serebii, in his XYORAS Pokédex, under the pages for the Pokémon that learn them. But Serebii is (1) not a reliable source and (2) a website whose owner said he does not like it when Bulbapedia steals information from him. So can someone please point me to a different source other than that? (And if not, then can we revert those moves to ???-type, like we currently have with the "Thousand" moves?) --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 01:12, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
+:Uh, how about the games? <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 01:38, 12 January 2015 (UTC)