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Tangrowth, Mamoswine, Lickilicky, Yanmega, and Ambipom have also appeared in every possible regional Pokédex since their debut (Sinnoh and Johto). However, the template doesnt show an option for the Johto dex if Gen IV is selected.[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#FFFFFF; background-color:#6890F0">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span>[[Latios (Pokémon)|<span style="color:red; background-color:#6890F0"> Δ ]]</span> 13:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC) | Tangrowth, Mamoswine, Lickilicky, Yanmega, and Ambipom have also appeared in every possible regional Pokédex since their debut (Sinnoh and Johto). However, the template doesnt show an option for the Johto dex if Gen IV is selected.[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#FFFFFF; background-color:#6890F0">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span>[[Latios (Pokémon)|<span style="color:red; background-color:#6890F0"> Δ ]]</span> 13:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Fixed.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 01:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 Pokédex expansion== | |||
The Unova Pokédex for Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 will be expanded, similar to Platinum's expansion. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 02:52, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== appears in more than one pokedex == | |||
can't we just have a list that have pokemon which appears in more than one pokedex instead? some pokemon are repeated in more than one game, but not really appears in all pokedex. however all kanto pokemon will be listed since they appears in johto's too. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 07:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
:That's exactly what this page does. And no, while all of kanto have appeared on the johto des, they didn't appear in the hoenn or sinnoh dex.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 07:44, 30 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
::my point is appears in MORE THAN ONE pokedex, not ALL pokedex. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 07:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::This page isn't about appearing in more than one, it's about appearing in every regional dex, sans Unova dex.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 07:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::Is it worth creating a appears in more than one pokedex list or changing this page? -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
Actually, Sinnoh and Kalos also have Gen I Pokèmon in them. Not all 151 of them, of course, but at least one fourth of the Sinnohdex and one third of the Kalosdex. And Hoenn has quite a few Gen II's in it (mainly what we call "Johto-based evolution lines", half of them are also in Hoenn.) 2007!Unova (i see RBGY taking place in 1995, GSC in 1998, RSE in 2001, DPPt in 2004, BW1 in 2007, BW2 in 2009, and XY in 2012.) is really the only one without any previous-gen Pokès in it. [[User:Kaiko Mikkusu|Kaiko Mikkusu]] ([[User talk:Kaiko Mikkusu|talk]]) 10:00, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Doesn't make sense == | |||
Part of this article just doesn't make any sense. We've got the Pokemon that have been every Pokedex since Gen III, so that's the Hoenn, Sinnoh, and New Unova Dexes. Then you've got the Pokemon that have been every Pokedex since Gen IV, and this time you're counting Sinnoh, Johto, and New Unova. And while those 4 Pokemon have been every Pokedex since Gen IV (Sinnoh, Johto, and New Unova), the Gen III list of Pokemon, which you're saying is from Gen III onwards, haven't appeared in the Johto Dex. So by that logic, the Gen III Pokemon shouldn't be listed, as they haven't been in every Pokedex since Gen III. [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] ([[User talk:Don't Hug Lucario!|talk]]) 17:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
:From what I can tell, they article's not actually counting Johto in Gen IV (or any remake, otherwise none of the Gen III Pokémon would be here due to FR/LG), it just happens that all the Pokémon in Gen IV that have been in all the regional dexes just happened to be in the New Johto one. Might as well put that there than in Trivia. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 19:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Well then I think the Gen IV Johto Dex shouldn't be counted, and so the Gen IV Pokemon would be the ones that are in Sinnoh and New Unova. It would make a lot more sense that way. [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario!]] ([[User talk:Don't Hug Lucario!|talk]]) 13:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Mantyke == | |||
{{p|Mantyke}} appears in Sdex and Udex. Why isn't it in Generation IV onward? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I'm guessing it is because it isn't in the HGSS Regional Dex, unlike the Pokémon listed under Generation IV onward. Should we still add Mantyke? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 18:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::We ''shouldn't'' because it doesn't appear there in the Johto Gen IV Pokédex. And the article '''does''' state that the Pokémon that appears in Gen IV onward also appear in the HGSS dex. - [[User:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#00A000;">'''Club'''</span>]][[User talk:Clubchloe1|<span style="color:#0000A0;">'''chloe1'''</span>]] 18:58, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::Should we remove everything from Generation III onward because none of them appear in FRLG or HGSS dexes? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::It's a tough thing. Before the Unova expansion, the Generation IV was accounted for Pokémon in both Sinnoh and Neo Johto listing (as Unova had none of old Pokémon). Now as the expansion added many old Pokémon... [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 17:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::We have two routes. One is to remove all of Generation III's or to remove Jdex from Generation IV and add the missing ones such as Mantyke, Budew, Roserade, Riolu, Lucario, <s>Shinx</s>, and a bunch of others. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::There's also Buneary, Lopunny, Leafeon, Glaceon, Combee, Vespiquen, Buizel, and Floatzel. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::If the Jdex was removed from Gen IV, the Gen IV list would just be everything from Gen IV that was in Black 2/White 2's dex. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 08:00, 25 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Which is similar to what Gen IV's entry used to look like. I'm all for that, perhaps with a note that a few were also included in the expanded Johto Dex.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:#800080">13</span>]] 08:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I like this idea the best. Everyone else down for it? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 20:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::I'd prefer it that way as well[[User:PDL|PDL]] ([[User talk:PDL|talk]]) 23:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Should it be noted that NO Pokémon is in all regional dexes? == | |||
I mean think about it, in Pokémon Black no Pokémon from previous generations were included in the regional dex of that game. | |||
Personally I think it should say something in the beginning of the article like that. | |||
Yeah, later games do extend the PokéDexes, but it doesn't change the fact that no Pokémon is in the regional dex of the first games the regional PokéDexes were in. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 19:57, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Added a note roughly to that effect in the lede. Obviously, this list relies on the unstated assumption that the original version (BW, DP, GSC) and expanded version (B2W2, Pt, HGSS) are the same Dex, which it sounds like you're disagreeing with. We all know that no Pokemon would be on this list if it counted every edition of every Dex separately, so I think for the purposes of this list, it's better to lump together original/expanded as different versions of the same Dex. Do you see what I mean? (I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, that note is good enough. And don't worry, I do understand what you mean. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 18:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Missing pokemon? == | |||
Is there a reason that Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff, Lickitung and Onix aren't on the list of Pokemon that are in every Pokedex? {{unsigned|Jsladden}} | |||
:As far as I can tell, Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff do belong here (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But Lickitung and Onix aren't technically in the Hoenn Pokedex; all 386 Pokemon at that time had numbers we could pull out of the data by hacking (which is why those numbers are on the wiki), but only those that appeared in Hoenn (#001-202) displayed their Hoenn Pokedex numbers on-screen, so they're the only ones that *technically* count as "in the Hoenn Pokedex". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::('''[[User:Rarirouyai|Rariouyai]], ([[User talk:Rarirouyai|talk]]) not of Pallet''' 02:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC))Geodude it's another Pokémon that's missing in the list. | |||
:::Geodude wasn't in the new Unova dex.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 03:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
==Overhaul Idea== | |||
I was thinking about ways we could make this page more useful so I made a new listing [[User:EV_Love|here]] which is unfinished but gets the point across. I think it could replace this page or perhaps be a new page itself. It would eliminate the need for [[List of Pokémon that do not appear in any regional Pok%C3%A9dex|this]] page as well. Let me know what you think. [[User:EV Love|EV Love]] ([[User talk:EV Love|talk]]) 01:39, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Just remembered I saw this page once and thought the "cosmopolitan distribution"-aspect was cool, then realized that we've had BW since then, and figured this list got empty, which is why I came here to see what kind of messy state this page was in by now XD After seeing it, I thought to myself, the proper way this page should be done now for it to be interesting, is if it listed pokemon by the amount of regional-dexes they have been in. And no surprise, someone already not only suggested that, they made an example on their userpage. Love it! I don't see a reason not to overhaul the page to your suggestion, because as I said, it's the same thought I got here.--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] ([[User talk:Saiph charon|talk]]) 10:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Page needs ORAS update == | |||
This page needs to be updated to show the New Hoenn listings for ORAS. --[[User:HoennLove200|HoennLove200]] ([[User talk:HoennLove200|talk]]) 17:45, 21 December 2014 (UTC) | |||