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Talk:List of Pokémon by effort value yield (Generation V-VI)


Why is Speed not the last stat in the list like it is in the video games? It would make it much easier to remember which column holds which stat after the headings scroll off the screen if they were presented in the same order as they are in the games. --Kitsunegami 00:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know why either. But right now it'd seriously be a pain to change it... TTEchidna 04:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I've got the time if there are no objections to it. Speed is the last stat listed on Bulbpedia except on these large lists. Fixing them would make the whole site more consistent. --Kitsunegami 11:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
It would most definitely be appreciated if it were corrected. Podunk 10:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Still would be appreciated. Especially since Deoxys's freaking BST was messed up! TTEchidna 03:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Movelist Tables??

Is there any chance we can do a slight revamp of this page, so that we have a movelist table for each individual stat by category? It's hard to keep in mind which column represents what once you've scrolled down to the pokemon you're looking for, so I thought this might be a good idea instead. It would be a page like "List of Pokémon by effort value yield#Speed_Yield"? I hope I'm explaining the idea correctly, I'm sorry if not. ^^; RWMVG1DC 01:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Possible numeral system?

I'm not sure whether this would have any use or relevance, but I was thinking of adding a quaternary numeral system for the tables, much like the binary numeral system, but thought I'd run the idea by here before I did anything else. Luke Davis 19:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


I changed the speed to the last stat like in the games. Alpha Totodile 22:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Alpha... please please please ask before doing it next time... this is a damned sensitive table... TTEchidna 01:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
OK. We can still keep the changes though, can't we? I know what I'm doing. Alpha Totodile 01:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh... the changes were undone... I apparently did something wrong. Alpha Totodile 02:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
We're gonna template it up so as to have an easier time of adding the data in Gen V. TTEchidna 03:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Does that mean I don't have to change it? I'd still like to, because it's been needed for a LONG time. Alpha Totodile 00:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Do it according to the new template. You'll have to go through each Pokémon, though, since some are wrong and Speed is in the wrong place. TTEchidna 01:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Well. I just found out I can't edit it. It's protected. Can I have your permission to edit it? Alpha Totodile 11:43, 16 April 2009, (UTC)
In respect to editing the table, if I find there is a row with the wrong EV, who would I have to go to to ask for it to be verified and fixed? Goddessofevil9 01:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Experience Points

I dont understand what level the experience points are set at. Can somebody help me out? - unsigned comment from Ty Boyd (talkcontribs)

It's the base value for the formula given here. So, effectively, it's at level 1. —darklordtrom 22:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it's effectively at level 7. TTEchidna 06:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Gen II EVs?

In Gen II (and I) the EVs given are much greater right? (Since they go up to 65536 instead of 256 and are divided by 2048 in the formula...) Any info on these numbers? Grinnz 00:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind...I found out it's just the base stats, which the Effort values page mentions, but apparently I didn't notice. Maybe this should be made clearer on that page, where it links to this table... --Grinnz 02:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Effort points?

So it says for every four effort points in a particular stat, i will get 1 of those stats permanently at lvl 100.....say i went a bit genocidal and killed....oh say 41000 lvl 4 or 3 hoothoots which would take me to around lvl 100....and granting me 41000 hp effort points and around 10000 hp??? Why do i not believe this? Or am i miss understanding/missing something? And btw....assuming i had no life this could be accomplished in like a month. - unsigned comment from Ethanwoodhouseiscool (talkcontribs)

Each stat can have a maximum of 255 EVs and each individual Pokémon has a maximum of 510 EVs, limiting the ammount gained by them, as mentioned in their article. Werdnae (talk) 09:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Gen. V

Could someone please add the values for the Generation V Pokémon? Tschihrätschih 14:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Tada! Hexagon Theory 12:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Pre-Gen. V experience yield?

I understand that almost every Pokémon's base experience yield was changed for Black and White. So where can I find the old values? —Typhlosion 03:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

  • IIRC, the experience yield is unchanged, only the formula has changed. --Trulyelse 23:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Experience yield has definitely changed. For example, Blissey now has 608 base exp. compared to 255 base exp. before. Ultraflame 00:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Redirect to this page

Could the following link redirect to this page from the search menu, please: List of Pokemon by base experience

If anyone who knows how to do it could, i'd be grateful. Migrant 04:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

New base Experience?

Are all the values updated for gen V? Some of them seem to not have been updated (for example, Silcoon and Cascoon having quite different base yields)... Thanks for taking the time to check it up! Eriorguez 06:41, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Can we get confirmation that all the base Exp values in this list are actually now correct, and are the Gen 5 values? Thanks. ~ Serial Colour (talk) 22:37, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
I've tested a number of these values, and many are not the Gen 5 values. They were taken from the individual species pages, which are also inaccurate. The values I did get are consistent with the list on this website: I wanted to say this before the values were corrected and anyone got trigger-happy with the "revert edit" function. ~ Serial Colour (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
The values i got for Generation I (Gameshark Pokemon Yellow) are consistent with the ones provided by the site too. T-Rex_Lord 01:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Old experience yield

Uh, is there is a list of it? Marked +-+-+ 21:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Best bet is to just look at an older revision (before September 2010) of this page. Ultraflame 03:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Sort By Region/Generation?

Is there any sort of way someone could add a way to sort by region dex or by generation? And maybe to sort by more than one criteria. Like sort to the top the pokemon who yield the most special attack in Unova. Theviolinkid 01:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

It isn't possible to sort by more than one criteria. And I believe the only way to sort by regional dex would be to add a column for each regional dex number, which would make the table prohibitively wide. Werdnae (talk) 06:09, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


What are the "other variables" which determine experience yield? A formula would be nice. Tk3141 (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

See experience. --SnorlaxMonster 04:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Needs Redirect

If I'm not mistaken, this page doesn't redirect "List of Pokemon by effort value yield" to itself. This should probably be fixed, considering that most other pages are willing to except Pokemon with the wrong 'e'. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how to do that. --Cedrickc (talk) 15:05, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

"List of pokemon by effort value yield" does, and since the search bar ignores case (unless there are two articles with the same name but a different case) it has the same function. --SnorlaxMonster 15:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Accurate from Gen V and later

The article states the figures are accurate from Gen V onward, is this statement true as of Gen VI, or has this some how changes for one or more Pokémon or is no longer applicable. Yamitora1 (talk) 07:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Gen VI EV yields

Thanks to Super Training this should be easy to verify in Gen VI -- just take an untrained Pokemon, defeat one wild Pokemon of the desired species, then use a Reset Bag on it. Any volunteers to fill in the gaps? (Infoboxes on species pages also need updating with the info.) For example, Helioptile's EV yield appears to be +1 Speed. --Stratelier 21:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Kalos Pokémon's EV yields

Do we have sources for the EV yields for Kalos Pokémon? --Cinday123 (Talk) 05:24, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Equation for base Exp

I came across this website, and towards the bottom it has some equations for calculating the Gen 5 base Exp value for a species based on its BST. The equations are as follows:

BST * 4/20, rounded to nearest whole number - first evolution
BST * 7/20, rounded to nearest whole number - second evolution or non-evolving non-legendary
BST * 9/20, rounded to nearest whole number - third evolution or legendary

There are a few exceptions, such as the Audino/Chansey lines (lots of Exp is their thing) and the Unova starters (because you face 2 of them immediately), and some Pokémon being treated as being in different tiers according to their strengths/weaknesses (e.g. Volcarona is treated as being in the legendary tier).

Should this information be put somewhere? ~ Serial Colour (talk) 22:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I would like to see this on the main page, since it is accurate for the majority of Pokémon. Though we might need to have a disclaimer stating that Pokémon with updated stats in Gen VI didn't gain new Base Experience values. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 22:10, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Should Watchog's B/W EV should be added as a note?

In Black/White Watchog's EV was 1 Attack. Should we add that as a note under its current EV yield, like how it is on its page? Trainer Yusuf (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

It is noted, although it's hidden, since the template doesn't cover things like that. - unsigned comment from Eridanus (talkcontribs)


Floette and Florges both give two Special Defense EVs each. Is this a mistake or is Florges meant to only give two EVs despite it being third in line in its evolutionary family? -- Scribbl 03:27, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

A seperate list for Gen I-IV base experience

Since most Pokémon had their base experience altered in Gen V, I think it would be best to have a separate list within this page, or in another page like how Base Stat lists are separated for Gen I, Gen II-V and Gen VI+. Trainer Yusuf (talk) 12:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there should be a separate page. For reference, this is right before Gen V changes were made to this page. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect base experience values for Gen VI

I have noticed that several dozen Pokémon on this page have different values for base experience than the values given on's Pokédex. I have compiled a list of the conflicting values here. Nearly all of them are final evolutions, with the base experience value 4 or 5 points higher according to the veekun data. This leads me to believe there was an intentional recalibration of base experience values by Gamefreak in Gen VI for several final evolutions (and alternate forms, and Megas, and some others as well) that Bulbapedia never noticed. Or, maybe the veekun data is wrong and this page is correct. But given this page's lack of form data (Megas, Eternal Floette, Rotom, Kyurem), I'm more inclined to believe veekun. Could someone more knowledgable than me verify which source is correct? And if it's not Bulbapedia, update the page appropriately? Porygon137 (talk) 20:08, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

According to Wayback Machine archives from February 2013, it's a case of mixed bag.Eridanus (talk) 20:48, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
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