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==Third version== | ==Third version== | ||
Before anyone else decides to talk about it, yeah, I'm pretty much gonna guarantee it being the mascot of BW's third version. No further discussion on this. Until we get the announcement and boxart. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC) | Before anyone else decides to talk about it, yeah, I'm pretty much gonna guarantee it being the mascot of BW's third version. No further discussion on this. Until we get the announcement and boxart. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::: Sorry, that's what I thought. Or so I heard. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | ::: Sorry, that's what I thought. Or so I heard. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:57, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::: Legendary Pokémon are based on all sorts of myths from various cultures, why should that matter? Anyway, wikipedia mentions that the Wendigo mainly possessed or transformed humans, and especially prefers cannibals. It doesn't really mention the Wendigo itself carrying off humans away to eat, which is more or less what Kyurem did. So I'm not sure if there is that much relevance. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 03:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | :::: Legendary Pokémon are based on all sorts of myths from various cultures, why should that matter? Anyway, wikipedia mentions that the Wendigo mainly possessed or transformed humans, and especially prefers cannibals. It doesn't really mention the Wendigo itself carrying off humans away to eat, which is more or less what Kyurem did. So I'm not sure if there is that much relevance. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 03:04, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::: The Wendigo comes from North American Native legends --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Hmmm? == | == Hmmm? == | ||
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"Given that its Japanese name contains mu, it may be based on the koan mu." From the transliteration in the infobox at the top, the Japanese name doesn't seem to have "mu" in it. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 20:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC) | "Given that its Japanese name contains mu, it may be based on the koan mu." From the transliteration in the infobox at the top, the Japanese name doesn't seem to have "mu" in it. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 20:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
:It actually does have "mu" in it. While Kyurem is the official romanization of Kyurem's Japanese name, it's actually written as "Kyuremu" in Japanese. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 21:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC) | :It actually does have "mu" in it. While Kyurem is the official romanization of Kyurem's Japanese name, it's actually written as "Kyuremu" in Japanese. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 21:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
== You guys have the wrong palette for Kyurem's party sprite == | |||
I'm assuming you guys used the Veekun rip. That rip uses an incorrect palette ID. Notice how the thing on Kyurem's head that's supposed to be yellow is purple on Veekun's icon rip. I checked my game, it uses a different palette than Veekun's incorrect rip, and the thing is yellow, unlike the bad rip where its purple. Here's a more accurate rip: | |||
http://www.spriters-resource.com/ds/pokemonblackwhite/sheet/37497 (scroll to the bottom to see Kyurem) | |||
[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] ([[User talk:Chaos Rush|talk]]) 13:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Description== | |||
It says "its tail appears to be some sort of propulsion device; exactly what it is based on is unclear, though it may be a damaged turbine". It looks like a plug, likely as a reference that Kyurem absorbs energy instead of generating it (unlike Reshiram and Zekrom) to get more power (the new formes). [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 04:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
:That is likely. Heat is a form of energy, so cold is the absence of that energy. Pardon if I sound rude, but this is discussed in the article, in the Origin section under Trivia. It does not give the exact information you pointed out, however. [[User:Kyro-Dizzy|Kyro-Dizzy]] ([[User talk:Kyro-Dizzy|talk]]) 09:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Formes have second highest base stat totals and second highest attack/special attack == | |||
Is it worth noting this, considering that it's apparently only two thirds of the full Pokemon? Or is it something that isn't worth noting at all? --[[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] ([[User talk:Shadowater|talk]]) 20:18, 16 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Hourly changes in article also changing the movesets? == | |||
I noticed that as of this moment, with the article displaying White Kyurem, it's only showing the moveset for it, with no means to view the movesets for Black or regular Kyurem. I understand the point behind the alternating images to show off the different forms, but this is getting to the point where it makes the article ''less'' informative by making it impossible to look up complete information on the pokemon without checking back at three different times. I'm not even remotely familiar with how all the coding for this works, but isn't there a way that it could be set up so that all the moveset information would still be accessible via link or such for the alternate forms regardless of which one is displayed? Because speaking as a casual user who likes to be able to quickly look up information from time to time, this is frankly obnoxious. It's not just an aesthetic change- which would be fine- but actually making it impossible to view a thorough and accurate article at one time. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 01:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Actually, I believe the switch only switches the learnset visible when you first get on the page. You can get to the other movesets by pressing the small "show" buttons next under the moveset section of the article. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 01:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
In the same vein, I came to this page just to compare the artwork of all three forms, but that can't be done with the current set-up. I cleared the cache which gave me one other artwork, and went into edit the page to get the filenames so I could merely link to them, but they're not there. To this I say, why not implement a gallery section for pages that have this coding to reflect different forms? As also a casual user agreeing with the above poster, I feel it's a good idea in theory but makes finding what you want more difficult. - [[User:Deadlyslashsword|<font color="black">'''+Deadly'''</font>]][[User Talk: Deadlyslashsword|<font color="indigo">'''Slash'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Deadlyslashsword|<font color="black">'''Sword+'''</font>]] 01:14, 15 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:There's a link to the category on the archives at the bottom of the infobox. All the images for all three formes are there. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 09:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Also, in the second paragraph of the article you have a link to Form differences, the page that compares different formes. [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 12:12, 15 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
:::I would not have known to have looked there - again, I bring up the point of ease of accessibility for the massive casual userbase, which you guys haven't touched on. While I thank you for pointing me where I wanted to go, you shouldn't have had to. I should have been able to have found it myself without a ton of digging and searching through links and collapsible boxes. - [[User:Deadlyslashsword|<font color="black">'''+Deadly'''</font>]][[User Talk: Deadlyslashsword|<font color="indigo">'''Slash'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Deadlyslashsword|<font color="black">'''Sword+'''</font>]] 00:53, 20 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Kyurem PMD appereance == | |||
New trailers out | |||
could it be good to add a reference to it | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9BXqojjxyMw#! {{unsigned|PortalDark}} | |||
== Evolution == | |||
Kyurem does not evolve, and the section labelled "Evolution" shows its forme changes. Why not title the section "Formes"? | |||
[[User:Bug Catcher Wade|<span style="color: Purple;">'''Bug Catcher Wade'''</span>]] 03:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Black/White Kyurem Base stats? == | |||
Are the Black/White Kyurem Base stats unknown, since they are not [[Kyurem (Pokémon)#Base stats|listed]]? That is, not even that the total for both is 700. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 17:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
:They're on the page. They're under the regular Kyurem's base stats. You need to click on "show". --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 17:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Gahh. How could I miss that. --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 19:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
== The title screen model. == | |||
I've uploaded [[a:File:White Kyurem title screen.png|White Kyurem]] model from title screen about year ago (back when games were only in Japan), but it's unused. Any idea where it could have a use? I totally forgot what I was doing with it... And I've just noticed that I uploaded it in 4x size (that is it's 4 times as big as in-game, considering games are 256x192 and file is 1024x768...). Could "update" so it's the size it should be. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:20, 11 July 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Exp, EV, and the DNA Splicer == | |||
How does fusing Kyurem with Zekrom or Reshiram affect gaining Exp. and EV points? Do both of the pokemon involved (Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram) gain them or only Kyurem? [[User:Legionaireb|Legionaireb]] ([[User talk:Legionaireb|talk]]) 05:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Zekrom/Reshiram fuctionally don't exist while part of Black/White Kyurem. So basically, Kyurem gets all of the exp, and EV points. --[[User:Funktastic~!|<span style="color:#009900">'''It's'''</span> <span style="color:#CC66FF">'''Funktastic~!'''</span>]][[User talk:Funktastic~!|<sub><small><span style="color:#99CCFF">''話してください''</span></small></sub>]] 05:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC) | |||
==Shouldn't it go White, then Black Kyurem in templates?== | |||
Since that is the order it is listed as in the in-game Pokédex and in Pokédex 3D Pro? [[User:Ensephylon|Ensephylon]] ([[User talk:Ensephylon|talk]]) 23:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Pronunciation == | |||
This goes for a couple other Pokemon with somewhat awkward names as well. I feel that there should be something showing the correct pronunciation of some of the names. Kyurem in particular I find to be difficult to get my head around. [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 19:45, 14 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Bulbapedia decided not to have name pronunciations for Pokemon because there were differences in pronunciation even from official sources. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Then just include multiple official sources. You already go into great detail about some of the name origins and that's arguably less relevant than how to say the name itself. At the very least it would be better to have something over nothing. [[User:MegaNerd18|MegaNerd18]] ([[User talk:MegaNerd18|talk]]) 04:59, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::If we do that, then users will complain about which is the correct pronunciation and we'd have edit wars. Thus, we decided that not having pronunciation at all was the better option.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 05:39, 19 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::This would be an unorthodox (and most likely impractical) solution, but what if there were a page specifically ABOUT pronunciations of Pokémon names, that includes information about inconsistent pronunciations and the like? Even if it's a controversial subject it would be extremely informative, and perhaps by including the information about all Pokémon on a single page, separate from the main Pokémon, it could keep things from devolving into edit wars. —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:46, 10 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Unable to own both Black and White? == | |||
If you traded a Kyurem and a Reshiram/Zekrom from another game, and fused them together, it would make a Black/White Kyurem, right? And if you fused your own Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram, you would also get a White/Black Kyurem. So in theory, you can own them at the same time. Someone with multiple B2/W2 games, can you confirm this for me? [[User:GalarChampionAverie|Champion Averie]], signing off! ([[User talk:GalarChampionAverie|Need anything?]]) 19:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
:As you can see on the [[DNA Splicers]] page, it is impossible to fuse another Kyurem while having a Black/White Kyurem already. It is explained at the beginning of this page too, although not as detailed. [[User:Itan|Itan]] ([[User talk:Itan|talk]]) 20:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC) | |||