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It is mentioned that this is the first one that Jessie says the title, but is it not also the first one where someone other than Ash says the title? (I haven't checked, that's why I'm suggesting it here instead of editing it myself) (Shivafang 13:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC))

Nope. Ash Catches a Pokémon takes the distinction as the first episode where anyone other than Ash read the title card, as Misty read that episode's title card. --Shiningpikablu252 21:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction

On this page's (and Snow Way Out's) trivia:

Due to not airing when initially intended, it will be considered by Bulbapedia to be a special episode.

On Princess Versus Princess's trivia:

This episode was originally scheduled to air on Girls' Day itself, on March 3, 1998, but was rescheduled in the aftermath of EP038.
The original airing schedule suggests that this episode takes place between Showdown at Dark City and The March of the Exeggutor Squad (which aired in Japan on April 30, 1998 and May 7, 1998 respectively), which explains why Jessie's Lickitung is mentioned in So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd and predates the discovery of Togepi egg.

On The Purr-fect Hero's trivia

This episode was originally scheduled to air on Children's Day itself, on May 5, 1998, but was rescheduled in the aftermath of EP038.
The original airing schedule suggests that the events of this episode take place between Who Gets to Keep Togepi? and Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden.


So why the double standards? If Princess VS Princess and The Purr-fect Hero are considered normal episodes, despite clearly being aired out of order, then Holiday Hi-Jynx & Snow Way Out should be too, or the other two should be considered special episodes too. I would also like to see the original airing schedule if anyone knows how to find it. XVuvuzela2010X 17:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Code English title Japanese title Planned broadcast Actual broadcast
* Holiday Hi-Jynx ルージュラのクリスマス December 23, 1997 October 5, 1998
* Snow Way Out! イワークでビバーク October 5, 1998
EP040 The Battling Eevee Brothers イーブイ4きょうだい January 6, 1998 April 16, 1998
EP041 Wake Up, Snorlax! おきろ!カビゴン! January 13, 1998 April 23, 1998
EP042 Showdown at Dark City たいけつ!ポケモンジム! January 20, 1998 April 30, 1998
EP043 March of the Exeggutor Squad ナッシーぐんだんだいこうしん! January 27, 1998 May 7, 1998
EP044 The Problem with Paras パラスとパラセクト February 3, 1998 May 14, 1998
EP052 Princess vs. Princess げきとう!ポケモンひなまつり March 3, 1998 July 9, 1998
EP053 The Purr-fect Hero こどものひだよ!ぜんいんしゅうごう! May 5, 1998 July 9, 1998
...and continuing every week. Though the Japanese Pokemon LD actually officially considers Pikachu's Forest and only one of the Xmas eps as the special episodes. >_>
As for Bulbapedia's choice, I believe I read somewhere it was intended so that it would use the same episode count as Pokeani. I could be wrong though. Bluesun 20:46, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
But they still aired between the wrong episodes, Princess vs Princess & The Purr-fect Hero would have originally been roughly EP046 & EP055 (this is counting Holiday Hi-Jynx, Snow Way Out and the unaired New Year episode). Plus like you said, Pikachu's Goodbye is a true special episode, yet is not considered one by Bulbapedia, even though the reason why it would be considered a special, being created in response to Electric Soldier Porygon and not being on the original airing schedule, is stated on the page, so why should Holiday Hi-Jynx and Snow Way Out be considered specials? XVuvuzela2010X 22:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Move to EP039

Rocket-dan VS Plasma-dan! (Part 1, and Part 2), and Fishing Conference of Hiun City! Fisher Sommelier - Dent Appears!! have "not aired when initially intended", but are still considered to be BW023, BW024, and BW026 respectively, so is it not about time this, and and EP041, were corrected? XVuvuzela2010X 15:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I think so. Not to mention the fact that quite a few of the post-EP038 episodes aired in the wrong order in the first place. However, we would have to move EP039 one number up, and we would have to put EP040 till the end of Johto two episodes up, and changing the names for 200+ episodes would probably take ages. I'm still up for it, though. Don't Hug Lucario! 07:23, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
There is no way we are moving a majority of the main series episodes. It is completely unreasonable to do that. If anything is changing, it will be the Best Wishes episodes. Please be patient. We are still thinking about what is going to be done. BW026 will be airing next week and we will decide sometime around then. --ケンジガール 07:26, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I know it would be a bit of work, and I am not suggesting they be moved (and all links be changed) right away, but I don't think it should be completely out of the question. After all, we done pretty much the same with most of the Gen V articles, moving the pages and changing the links from one romanization to another, then moving them to their english names. And likethe previous poster said, these are not the only episodes, there is also Princess VS Princess, The Purr-fect Hero, the Farfetch'd episode, AG101, and the unaired new year episode. XVuvuzela2010X 15:07, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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