Talk:History of the Pokémon world: Difference between revisions

:It conflicts directly with both the existence of Mega Evolution in Hoenn, and the discovery of Steel/Dark types. The latter I bring up because, with the release of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, specifically the RR episode, there's possibility for a third timeline to be considered; a Classic/Disappearance Timeline. The reason I believe a third timeline exists is because it cleanly resolves all paradox retcon discussion while keeping all mainline games canon in some way. The plot of the episode not only confirms without a single shadow of a doubt the existence of alternate universes, but seems to explore a third timeline in which player characters didn't exist. However, taking a close look at the dialogue of the team leaders fought, it seems that the missing characters are very specific; only [[Archie]], [[Maxie]], [[Cyrus]] and [[Lysandre]] mention having emerged victorious, and moreover, they make allusions to the fact that the player characters in their world didn't even show up. This is different with Ghetsis and Giovanni; neither mention ever accomplishing their goals, instead, Ghetsis implies he might have had trouble controlling N, something he shouldn't have had with an absence of a hero trainer, (though that's very much debatable,) and Giovanni mentions a feeling of nostalgia, plus his attitude towards the player makes it seem as though this wasn't the first time he had been defeated. I believe this all points to a third, sequential timeline that starts with RBGY to GSC, then a sequence of generations where the villains win; C!Kanto is represented by RBGY, although Red does not catch Mewtwo, while concurrently C!Hoenn's Maxie and Archie successfully revive Groudon and Kyogre without the player's interference, and end up on a stalemate, meaning the world is spared and why at best minor side effects occur(weakest link, I admit). → C!Johto's events occur. C!Sinnoh's Team Galactic manage to capture Dialga/Palkia, but Cyrus is attacked by Giratina before he's able to finish his plan. → C!Unova's Ghetsis's plan to take over the world by taking away it's Pokémon fails, most likely due to N disobeying him and defeating him with the opposite Dragon. As a result, not only do B2W2's Plasma events not occur, but Pokémon remain in the world for X and Y's events to occur; → C!Kalos's Lysandre explicitly mentions successfully triggering his ultimate weapon, so even with him momentarily vanished, his plan to wipe out all life is successful.  

:Other details that stick out, at least to me, are: •Giovanni has Mewtwo here, who was missing from GSC but not in HGSS. •Archie and Maxie utilize their Gen 3 designs, a very intentional decision, considering no game before has returned to a character's old design post-remake, not to mention the ORAS models were ready and available to be easily recycled. Their legendaries also don't utilize Primal Reversion. •Ghetsis uses his BW design and owns ''one'' of the dragons, possibly leaving N with the other.