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== Origin ==
== Origin ==


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: It's certainly gothic, but does anyone else think it could be the counterpart to {{p|Jynx}}?  Both appear to be based on Japanese fashions (ganguro for Jynx), both are humanoid with purple skin, and both are Psychic.  I would hesitate to suggest they're actually related through evolution, though. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 19:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
: It's certainly gothic, but does anyone else think it could be the counterpart to {{p|Jynx}}?  Both appear to be based on Japanese fashions (ganguro for Jynx), both are humanoid with purple skin, and both are Psychic.  I would hesitate to suggest they're actually related through evolution, though. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 19:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


::I think it looks more like [[Jynx]] actually but that does look like it. {{unsigned|PokemonMaster01}}
::I think it looks more like {{p|Jynx}} actually but that does look like it. {{unsigned|PokemonMaster01}}
:::Leave speculation to the forums, guys. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 18:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Leave speculation to the forums, guys. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange">Jel</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#90a8e0;">lo</span>]]</b> 18:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


Hi I'm new I've already been editing a bunch of pages like Wynaut and Abomasnow but I beleive the "zaru" refers to the french word mademoiselle. "Celestial Body" is another term for "astral body" which is the psychic energy from the spirit leaving the body during sleep. I'm probly wrong though the person below who suggests that she is somewhat of a fallen angel seems more right.  
Hi I'm new I've already been editing a bunch of pages like Wynaut and Abomasnow but I beleive the "zaru" refers to the french word mademoiselle. "Celestial Body" is another term for "astral body" which is the psychic energy from the spirit leaving the body during sleep. I'm probly wrong though the person below who suggests that she is somewhat of a fallen angel seems more right. ([[User:Snozzardi|***Snozzardi***]] 17:57, 27 July 2010 (UTC))
 
:I think that too little of mademoiselle is used for it to considered a likely origin. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


== Romanization ==
== Romanization ==
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::Then use [http://http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SpriteGochiruzeru.gif this one!] It wasn't stolen, it was borrowed with permission! --[[User:Tailzfoxy96|Tailzfoxy96]] 00:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::Then use [http://http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SpriteGochiruzeru.gif this one!] It wasn't stolen, it was borrowed with permission! --[[User:Tailzfoxy96|Tailzfoxy96]] 00:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I deleted it: it's gif, not what we'd like... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I deleted it: it's gif, not what we'd like... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 00:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
== Accordion reference? ==
Wasn't entirely sure where to put this, but i'll go ahead. A recent video shows Gochi's cry, which sounds almost like an accordion. That, along with the way she looks and moves, also points to this. Perhaps this is an indicator of its origin, and maybe romanisation too.. [[User:N-Denizen|N-Denizen]] 03:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:No. Doesn't sound like one nor look like one. At all. - [[User:050294|050294]] 02:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
== Gothiruselle ==
[http://d.pr/BQZY Please move, thanks!]--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 16:04, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Aren't it just added subtitles? [[User:RikkiKitsune|<span style="color:#CFCDD0"><b>R<s>ikki</s></b></span>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|<span style="color:#F9C152"><u>K</u>itsune</span>]] 16:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. Those are just subtitles created by #PM fansubs. It is a romanization created by fans. It's no where near official. PM already got [http://www.hardrock-pokemon.com/image/cache/Pokemon-Lanculus-Chillarmy-Shikijika-Pikachu-Bromide-Gum-Promo-Magnet-Card-18-500x500.jpg "Ranculus" wrong]. Maybe we should change it back until we get an OFFICIAL romanization. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 01:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
== Edit (and unprotect) request ==
<nowiki>{{main|Gothiruselle (TCG)}}</nowiki> → <nowiki>{{main|Gothitelle (TCG)}}</nowiki>----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 17:37, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
:Done and done. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 19:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
==Gender Reference==
Is there any correlation between the fact that this very female looking Pokemon can be male and the phenomena of cross dressing males who pervade the cosplaying world and have been known to sport similar fashions? {{unsigned|Oleandervine}}
:I doubt it. No more than the {{p|Ralts}} line. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
== Please Replace gypsie with Romani ==
For some reason I keep getting errors when I try to update the page, but I strongly believe that we should not use the racial slur "gypsie". I suggest instead linking to or {{wp|Fictional representations of Romani people}} instead, since that is what we are referencing anyway. {{unsigned|O76923}}
:But not all gypsies are of Romani origin. And since when has it been a rcaial slur? <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 17:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
::It's usually used as a slur against dishonest people, as well as through the use of "gyp", also referring to dishonesty. I wouldn't call it a major slur, but it'd be better not to use it. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''P S Y'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 17:25, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
== Dark Pulse ==
It and it's evolutionary family can't learn Dark Pulse via Move Tutor? Somebody check this...--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] ([[User talk:Muk-a-matic|talk]]) 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
== Cinderella!? ==
Has the whole fairy tale name thing been confirmed? Because, along with the other names, the association makes very little sense.
"French Sidérella From Sidéral and Cinderella"
It would make far more sense that the name Sidérella comes from Sidéral and either Elle, which is a french female pronoun, or Ella, which is french for "girl" and makes far more sense along with the other language names, many of which reference the words "girl", "Woman", or "lady" in their respective languages. Also, "Cinderella" Effectively means "Girl of cinders" or "fire girl", and we all know this is not a fire pokemon. The fairy tale reference makes no sense at all, and unless the quote saying the name is a reference from Cinderella is from an official source, I highly suggest we fix this. [[User:Nokota|Nokota]] ([[User talk:Nokota|talk]]) 19:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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