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:::::As Glik said, the Roman numerals are still a fan designator. If anything, this could be a precedent to move all our generation articles to "sixth generation", etc., instead of using Roman numerals. If we did so, though, we would have to make edits to pretty close to every single page on the wiki, though, so I'm not sure how reasonable it would be on such slim evidence. The Roman numerals are a core part of our in-house style's infrastructure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC) | :::::As Glik said, the Roman numerals are still a fan designator. If anything, this could be a precedent to move all our generation articles to "sixth generation", etc., instead of using Roman numerals. If we did so, though, we would have to make edits to pretty close to every single page on the wiki, though, so I'm not sure how reasonable it would be on such slim evidence. The Roman numerals are a core part of our in-house style's infrastructure. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::::Here in Italy, Roman numerals are read as "first", "second", etc; it appears it's not the case in English-speaking countries. Anyway, do as you wish, the meaning of "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." seems quite clear to me, it refers to the games and, obviously, to the Pokémon they introduced. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 14:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ::::::Here in Italy, Roman numerals are read as "first", "second", etc; it appears it's not the case in English-speaking countries. Anyway, do as you wish, the meaning of "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y–the evolved sixth generation of Pokémon." seems quite clear to me, it refers to the games and, obviously, to the Pokémon they introduced. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 14:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::::::"Generation VI" and "GenVI" are both fan designators for what is currently "Pokémon X and Pokémon Y", an official term. "Sixth generation" ''might'' be able to be ''considered'' official, but I personally believe that Bulbapedia should keep the "Generation ''foo''" names, given that only GenVI would have an official name, and I favor consistancy in page naming. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:14, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Legendary Pokémon == | == Legendary Pokémon == | ||
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:Yes, it has the fewest legendary Pokémon as the three hidden legendary aren't official. Next time, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Generation_VI&curid=26812&diff=2071784&oldid=2071783 do pay attention] to the edit summaries as uses may explain their edits in the summaries.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 05:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | :Yes, it has the fewest legendary Pokémon as the three hidden legendary aren't official. Next time, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Generation_VI&curid=26812&diff=2071784&oldid=2071783 do pay attention] to the edit summaries as uses may explain their edits in the summaries.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 05:38, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::There's still no reason for us to go out of the way to state something that, while not yet officially wrong, is still likely to be wrong. I strongly think it would be better for us to just not say one way or the other until either they're revealed or Gen 6 ends. We do not suffer at all by omitting a trivium about something as negligible as which generation has the fewest Legendaries, but we ''do'' suffer lowered credibility when something we say is later proven objectively false. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:42, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ::There's still no reason for us to go out of the way to state something that, while not yet officially wrong, is still likely to be wrong. I strongly think it would be better for us to just not say one way or the other until either they're revealed or Gen 6 ends. We do not suffer at all by omitting a trivium about something as negligible as which generation has the fewest Legendaries, but we ''do'' suffer lowered credibility when something we say is later proven objectively false. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:42, 10 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::As of this moment, Generation VI introduced the fewest Legendary Pokémon. However, I believe that Generation VI might have introduced the fewest non-hidden Legendaries. That could be put in the trivia (reminds me, I should "compress" what is here) once someone figures out a good term for it (Primary Legendaries? Initial Legendaries?) [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 01:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Foot Prints == | == Foot Prints == | ||
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:Yes, we can assume it, but we can't confirm it just yet. Not until the games or the anime makes the connection with the three. This is the same with Kyurem and Giratina before it, we didn't count them as part of their trio until the anime/games confirmed it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 14:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | :Yes, we can assume it, but we can't confirm it just yet. Not until the games or the anime makes the connection with the three. This is the same with Kyurem and Giratina before it, we didn't count them as part of their trio until the anime/games confirmed it.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 14:10, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
::The games already have. It's called '''Aura Break''' in case you forgot, or simply chose not to read my explanation. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 15:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | ::The games already have. It's called '''Aura Break''' in case you forgot, or simply chose not to read my explanation. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 15:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Yes, the ability is indeed called Aura Break, and yes, it does indeed only affect the Mortality Duo's abilities, and yes, the rest of your points all make some sense. But on the topic of "not reading" what someone said, that would be your own problem. Had you actually ''read'' Force Fire's response, you would notice he said that there has been no ''direct mention'' that they are a Trio, and that all we can do is ''assume''. The ability existing is not ''direct'' confirmation. [[User:Schiffy|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Schiffy (瀬藤健二)</span>]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) <span style="cursor:help;" title="This is when my words were heard">16:15,2/20/2014 (UTC)</span> | |||
== Using Items == | |||
In Black, I was battling the Striaton Gym Leader, and it said "Leader Chili used THE Potion." | |||
Now in Y, it says something along the lines of, "Champion Diantha used A Full Restore." Is this something minor they changed, or did they change "the" to "a" in B2/W2 (since this is just Black)? [[User:Lithos141|Lithos141]] ([[User talk:Lithos141|talk]]) 22:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire == | |||
These games do not have "Version" in their titles, so please change the templates to something other than 2v2. Thanks! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:20, 7 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
== New trivia == | |||
"Generation VI contains the core games with both the shortest and longest titles: X and Y have one letter each, whereas Alpha Sapphire has fourteen characters including spaces." This is only true for English names of the games, since for example SoulSilver in Italian is called Argento SoulSilver which exceeds the number of characters in Alpha Sapphire. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 10:02, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, but this is an English wiki. So we focus on English and Japanese names. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 10:11, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Still, we could say "...the shortest and longest English titles." Even though we focus on English and Japanese, we do include "in other languages" on every page, so I don't think it's unreasonable to add just one word to clarify. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, I only intended to express the need to clarify the "restriction" (as obvious as it may be) to English names. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] ([[User talk:Shepeedy|talk]]) 17:42, 10 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
== "Undisclosed amount of time after BW" == | |||
It has been recently confirmed that XY take place at the same time as B2W2, so it would be two years after BW. Source: [https://twitter.com/matsumiyan/status/464052839870787584/] [[User:Ensephylon|Ensephylon]] ([[User talk:Ensephylon|talk]]) 16:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Replying to hopefully get an admin to notice this. We have confirmation. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 08:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
== 719 Pokémon == | |||
This is completely incorrect. There are actually 721 or 722 Pokémon in the series. [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 00:43, 7 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
:It's that way because they haven't officially/reliably confirmed. [[Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub#Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|(the discussion)]] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 00:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Edit request == | |||
There are a couple of redirected links on this page. Could someone fix them? | |||
* [[Generation VI#Hoenn]]: <code><nowiki>{{2v2|Omega Ruby|Alpha Sapphire}}</nowiki></code> -> <code><nowiki>{{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}}</nowiki></code> | |||
* [[Generation VI#Trivia]]: <code><nowiki>{{pkmn|Alpha Sapphire}}</nowiki></code> -> <code><nowiki>[[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Alpha Sapphire]]</nowiki></code> (or however you want to do it) | |||
[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:14, 18 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Fixed. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 16:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Retcon == | |||
It should be noted that a retcon would have to be made, especially with the context of XY, for ORAS to be able to exist parrallel to XY as both it and Kanto take place at the same time before Sinnoh and Johto which is before the Unova saga. This is explicitly stated throughout all of the games and a retcon would have to be made to follow the history. [[User:Darre|Darre]] ([[User talk:Darre|talk]]) 19:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:I am fairly sure ORAS will simply replace RSE in timeline. XY happens at the same as B2W2, which happens 2 years after BW, which happen unknown time after DPPt/HGSS, which happen unknown time after RSE/FRLG. I don't see the problem. I mean, Bill ''did'' invent Time Machine (at least in GSC), and there's no problem with trading between BW and B2W2, which both are in different time periods.[[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::We can't make a note because we don't know what they are going to do with the games in regard to the timeline. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 01:44, 25 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Kalos thematic motif == | |||
Anyone have any material thought up for this? I just want to bring it to attention. To provide some brainstorming, beauty, bonds (expressed via your four friends as well as Mega Evolution), and mortality are among the themes. | |||
[[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 17:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
== No Updated Art from Ken Sugimori for Remakes == | |||
Should it be mentioned that this is the first generation to receive remakes but not to receive updated art from Ken Sugimori for all the Pokémon introduced in the original games? When FRLG came out Gen I Pokémon we got new art, and when HGSS came out Gen II Pokémon got new art. Outside of maybe one or two Pokémon and not counting Megas, We've not gotten any official art to replace the original Gen III art. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:45, 11 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I don't think it is really notable since Sugimori changed his art-style between Generations II and III which is most likely why they art for Gen I and II Pokémon was updated at the time of their remake release. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 08:38, 11 March 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Ability to choose a non region-specific game language == | |||
The Gen VI games now allow the player to choose a game language before starting a new save file, unlike previous generations where the game language depends on the region of the cartridge. This fact is present in [[Pokémon X and Y]] ("playable in all seven of the languages...") but not [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]. Would it be better to move this information to [[Generation VI]] instead? [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 04:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Clarification Needed == | |||
In the alterations from Generation V section there is a line saying "The player can no longer register screens, such as Pokédex entries." What does this mean exactly? It is very vague in my opinion. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 02:08, 15 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
:[[Feature registration]]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:20, 15 May 2016 (UTC) | |||
== I need confirmation before adding this trivia. == | |||
* Generation VI was the first generation not to have a [[glitch Pokémon]] with an [[index number]] of 000. | |||
Is this true? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 14:08, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It is not. No generation has a Pokémon with index number 000. However, if you hack the game it is possible to force that data to be loaded, which gives you a glitch Pokémon. There are just no easy glitches to force the game to access Pokémon index 000 in Gen VI. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, I changed the trivia. However, are you sure there's a 000 glitch Pokemon in Generation VI? If there was, it would be on Bulbapedia by now. I'm just not sure that there ISN'T. In other words, I need to talk to somebody who has datamined a Generation VI game. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:43, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::From a programmer's perspective, I think it is a bit silly to note in trivia whether a particular generation/game '''does/does not''' have a [[glitch Pokémon]]. Glitch Pokemon do not "exist" in the strictest sense; they are results of illegal/invalid data access, most commonly due to specifying an index which goes beyond expected boundaries (eg. 000, >721). If a particular glitch Pokemon "does not exist" in a particular generation, it could be either due to improved error handling in the game code (for example, instead of returning a glitch Pokemon, newer games might detect invalid values and give you a [[Bad Egg]] instead), or because that the game will crash/freeze immediately instead of giving you a Pokemon. [[List of glitch Pokémon]] notes the "existence" (or rather, that it is viable to get one without the game crashing on you) of a #000 glitch Pokemon, by the way. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 02:25, 15 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::So, if there's no 000 Pokemon in Generation VI, is my trivia true?[[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 13:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::No, and I am not sure if you contradicted yourself earlier (I am understanding you as saying: no explicit #000, therefore no glitch Pokemon with #000). Building upon what has been mentioned above by myself and SnorlaxMonster, just like glitch Pokemon do not "exist" in the strictest sense, they also don't "not exist" either. Glitch Pokemon are a side-effect of programming oversight (or hacking/[[cheating]]); strictly speaking, '''no''' Pokemon game has a #000 Pokemon--it was not the intention of the game developers to make a #000 Pokemon available, so there is no data defined for all these glitch species. You can "see" some glitch Pokemon (without the game crashing/freezing) because data is being read from other locations in game memory, which happen to be legal values for Pokemon stats, so they appear to be valid Pokemon (to go into further detail, IDs 722 to 798{{sup/6|XY}}/825{{sup/6|ORAS}} contain Pokemon data pertaining to existing species' forms/mega evolutions, so that could be why such glitch Pokemon appear to be stable). | |||
:::::Anyway, [[List of glitch Pokémon]] states that you ''can'' actually find #000 glitch Pokemon, so in a sense, they "exist", and your trivia is false. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 15:08, 15 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Why does it say that only three legendaries were introduced? == | |||
Generation VI introduced Xerneas, Yvetal, Zygarde, Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion. That's more than Generation I, so the trivia is wrong. I removed it, but somebody (should I point fingers?) reverted it. If the latter three aren't considered legendary, what's the definition of "legendary"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 21:47, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion are Mythical Pokémon, not Legendary Pokémon. See [[Legendary Pokémon]] and [[Mythical Pokémon]] for exact definitions. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:57, 14 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Primate Trivia == | |||
Should it be mentioned that this is the first generation not to introduce at least one new Pokémon based on a primate? Gen 1: Mankey Line, Gen 2 Aipom, Gen 3 Slaking line, gen 4 Chimchar line and Ambipom, gen 5 elemental monkey lines, Gen 7 Oranguru and Passimian and Gen 8 Grookey line and Zarude. All these generations had at least 1 monkey or other primate introduced. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:23, 4 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Move this page == | |||
The Pokémon Company officially calls this generation the "sixth generation". I suppose that there's a possibility to move "Generation VI" to "Sixth generation" per [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Games#Move generation pages|here]]. --[[User:SaturnMario|<font color="#034112">SaturnMario</font>]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|<font color="#078325">his talk</font>]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|<font color="#83C192">his contributions</font>]] 15:53, 8 September 2023 (UTC) | |||