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The question, is this programmed into the games? Far as I knew, the egg groups are taken from the actual game programming, and the Pokémon that are genderless can't breed with anything but Ditto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*taps foot*</nowiki> I'm waaaaaaiting. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Dunno?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c41a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 00:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::He,he, nevermind, I found it (stupid me).  So, TTEchidna, how's my sprites?[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 00:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What now? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== Anyway... ==

Seriously, is this programmed into the games, or is it more of a subcategory for genderless Pokémon that can breed? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:i dont think this is programed into the games, but, it should probably be mentioned. after all, a Magnemite and Geodude are in the same group (mineral) but they cant breed together. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 03:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

==Remove genderless Pokemon from other egg group pages?==
Yes or no? [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 09:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:No. They're in those egg groups according to the game programming. This page exists because Nintendo knew there'd be a bunch of people writing letters and saying "Y CANT MY MAGENMIT BRED W/ MY STELIX?!", and so listed the genderless breeders separately in Stadium 2. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

The trivia section states that all members belong only to this group, yet they are still listed among the other egg groups as well.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 14:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:That's because they ''are'' in the other groups. This comes from stupid Stadium 2's stupid classification because Pokémon fans have demonstrated [[the truck|time]] and [[Form differences#Shaymin|again]] that there's nothing dumber than we are. They likely made up that listing because they didn't want people to be whining about not being able to breed their Onix with a Magneton. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::...why, exactly, are you fixating on that combination? --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 22:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Because it's a convenient one? I'm not gonna go say "Y KANT MI GARDEVOUR BRED W/ MY ROTTOM" because Garde and Rotom get enough questions about their egg groups...
:::Specifically why Garde's not in Humanshape and if Rotom's a legendary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm not saying that they ''shouldn't'' be listed in other groups, just that the trivia says they are ''not''.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 22:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Correction.  You sure work faster than I can get my point across...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 22:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Rotom, Manaphy/Phione ==

According to the pages, Manaphy/Phione is also in the Water1/Fairy groups, and Rotom is in the Indeterminate group. If these truly belong as part of this egg group, they need to be put in a separate table for "also in other groups".[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Here's the thing. The "Gender unknown" egg group is simply a listing of the breedable Pokémon which lack genders, because Nintendo thought people were stupid and would attempt to breed Onix and Magnemite. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::<s>Well then, the header shouldn't say "Only in this egg group".</s> Nevermind.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== ? ==
Shouldn't this article be called Gender unknown Pokémon rather than than Gender unknown (egg group)?? why is it an egg group from the first place?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

:Stadium 2 listed genderless Pokémon who were able to breed (only with Ditto) as a distinct egg group.  This article is a reflection and extension of that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hey guys. ==

Why is this listed as part of the total of egg groups (16), if {{type|???}} isn't listed as part of the total of types (17)?

Could it be that... a der, the ???-type is just like this egg group: a side note. So. I'm saying in the other articles, only count 15 egg groups, mention, like the ???-type, that this is a "special" grouping, but ''not count it''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

This does not appear to have been discussed in more than half a decade, so I think our standards have tightened enough since then that it's worth a second look at this page.

(1) First and foremost, since this does not actually exist in any game except Stadium 2, I think this should be deleted and simply mentioned in the Stadium 2 article. At the very least, even if this page isn't deleted, we need to demote it so it isn't mentioned as if it was a normal Egg Group and so it doesn't appear in the Egg Group navigation box. It isn't a real group, and it doesn't appear in the games' programming, so I really feel it's even less canonical than the {{t|Bird}} type, which at least ''was'' actually programmed in even if it was scrapped before release.

(2) On a separate note, since this seems to have only existed in Stadium 2, why have we been adding all the genderless breedable Pokémon that have been introduced in Generation III and beyond??? If it's true that this group only existed in Stadium 2, then ''all those Pokémon have never belonged to this group'' and should in no conceivable way be on this list. This is a ridiculous fanonical overexpansion, and if this page remains I really feel like it should cover ''only'' what is official — the Pokémon that Stadium 2 listed in it.

That's my soapbox. Sorry if it was a bit of a rant. Please discuss. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

:While I fully understand where you're coming from, I think that genderless breedable Pokémon need to be differentiated in some way. While we're on this topic, I don't like how they're mixed in among other members of their own egg group (such as Mineral), giving them the illusion that they can breed with other members of that group, when they can't.

:What I think would be a fair solution is to delete this page (but perhaps create a "list" page that contains all the Pokémon seen here), and on the individual egg group pages that contain genderless Pokémon, sort them out into a separate table at the bottom. — [[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900CC"><b>KiAN</b></span><span style="color:#AA66FF">GLO</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#00b7eb"><u>TALK</u></span>]]</sup> 07:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)