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:::::Croagunk is based off of a poison dart frog, according to its origin on this site. Besides, we can never determine what the creator of the Pokemon used for inspiration, unless they explicitly tell us, so we just have to go with our best educated guess as a group. Assuming they did I halfway decent job with the design, we should be able to figure out what they were going for. Finally, I never said their wasn't a difference between frogs and toads (a primary one is toads are more land dwellers, while frogs prefer being in the water more), but, regardless, I do think Froakie is based on a frog (specifically of the tree variety), so I'm not arguing against you there. --[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 00:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Croagunk is based off of a poison dart frog, according to its origin on this site. Besides, we can never determine what the creator of the Pokemon used for inspiration, unless they explicitly tell us, so we just have to go with our best educated guess as a group. Assuming they did I halfway decent job with the design, we should be able to figure out what they were going for. Finally, I never said their wasn't a difference between frogs and toads (a primary one is toads are more land dwellers, while frogs prefer being in the water more), but, regardless, I do think Froakie is based on a frog (specifically of the tree variety), so I'm not arguing against you there. --[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 00:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I think the point was that it could be any frog.  It could be based off of a bullfrog for all we know right now. Either that or I am misreading Doggy567123's comment as sarcasm. (also, I thought toads were "wartier" than most frogs or something like that; looking this up there are exceptions to the "wart" rule and the "prefers water to land" or "land to water" rule) Also, {{p|Croagunk}} '''maybe''' based off of a poison dart frog.  But if you ask me, it is based off of one and the same with {{p|Toxicroak}}, though one of their abilities is {{a|Dry Skin}} and toads are associated with having drier skin, still many things can be argued about this and I'm digressing.  Froakie looks like a frog-like amphibian, it could be based off of any species of frog or toad for all we know (guessing more frog because of the whole "water-type" thing, and it doesn't look like a {{wp|fire-bellied toad}}). ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 02:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I think the point was that it could be any frog.  It could be based off of a bullfrog for all we know right now. Either that or I am misreading Doggy567123's comment as sarcasm. (also, I thought toads were "wartier" than most frogs or something like that; looking this up there are exceptions to the "wart" rule and the "prefers water to land" or "land to water" rule) Also, {{p|Croagunk}} '''maybe''' based off of a poison dart frog.  But if you ask me, it is based off of one and the same with {{p|Toxicroak}}, though one of their abilities is {{a|Dry Skin}} and toads are associated with having drier skin, still many things can be argued about this and I'm digressing.  Froakie looks like a frog-like amphibian, it could be based off of any species of frog or toad for all we know (guessing more frog because of the whole "water-type" thing, and it doesn't look like a {{wp|fire-bellied toad}}). ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 02:28, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Can we add that the design is based on a frog in a bubble nest now? I think it's pretty much confirmed now that we have the species name confirmed. [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 05:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Is anyone who can actually edit the page reading this discussion page anymore?
[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 19:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Guess that's a no! [[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 05:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
::How about a "Blue Stripeless Frog"? It is widespread throughout France and looks a lot like Froakie.[[http://www.planetepassion.eu/amphibians-in-france/Common-green-tree-frog-and-Stripeless-tree-frog-France.html]]--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 19:11, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


== Name Origin ==
== Name Origin ==
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:::::It's too early to know what else Froakie was based on (besides a frog), I think his evolutions will help us figure it out, but so far I've seen everything from a burglar to a prince, and from a scientist to an aristocrat, and I don't think debating it will help, because at this point I can see where all of these are coming from, and without further information (like his evolutions), we aren't going to come to a conclusive answer. --[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::It's too early to know what else Froakie was based on (besides a frog), I think his evolutions will help us figure it out, but so far I've seen everything from a burglar to a prince, and from a scientist to an aristocrat, and I don't think debating it will help, because at this point I can see where all of these are coming from, and without further information (like his evolutions), we aren't going to come to a conclusive answer. --[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I believe the picture that resembles Froakie so much must be [http://ivn.us/history-unspun/files/2012/07/benjamin-franklin-series-pt-1-the-statesman-12395.jpg this one], given the glasses, hair and cravat represented by the foam. It's name also resembles "Franklin". [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 01:01, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I believe the picture that resembles Froakie so much must be [http://ivn.us/history-unspun/files/2012/07/benjamin-franklin-series-pt-1-the-statesman-12395.jpg this one], given the glasses, hair and cravat represented by the foam. It's name also resembles "Franklin". [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 01:01, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Welp, considering the game's release as well as the anime's, there's quite a bit of evidence now that Froakie is more or less partially based upon Japanese folklore thieves, though its evolution Greninja eventually rids itself of this origin and leans more for the ninja origin. Anyways as I talked about earlier a long time ago, you've probably seen [http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/050294/thief.jpg this example image] of the Japanese folklore thief, which does quite resemble Froakie. Taking into account the species actions in anime and the game so far, this reference is more than likely deliberate. Froakie has been shown to retract its bubble "pack" and using it very similarly to the aforementioned thieves. [http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/xy/804/DP156.jpg This screenshot], for example, shows froakie retracting its chest bubbles and using both it, and the ones on its back, and placing them upon its face, acting as a pretty obvious reference to a thief's furoshiki bag. - [[User:050294|050294]] ([[User talk:050294|talk]]) 08:53, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


== Ability ==
== Ability ==
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::::::Doing a quick comparison, I believe that is is the most natural sentence with the same meaning as the original text.  I think that it would work out nicely.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 08:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::Doing a quick comparison, I believe that is is the most natural sentence with the same meaning as the original text.  I think that it would work out nicely.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 08:20, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::::All changed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:48, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::::All changed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:48, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
== Looks ==
This probably wasn't Nintendo's intention, but to me, it looks like Benjamin Franklin. Maybe it's just me, but the fluff on his nose looks like glasses, and his 'hair'(If that's hair) looks like Ben Franklin's. [[User:Purrloin!|Purrloin]][[User talk:Purrloin!|!]]  [[Purrloin|Meow!!!]]
:Its appearance could be based on powdered wigs in general; however, Froakie's "wig" has also been interpreted as a backpack, as part of a burglar theme. We should probably wait to see its evolutions&mdash;which will confirm which idea they were going for&mdash;before adding Ben Franklin to its design origins. [[User talk:Yeyjordan|<font color="#aaa">yey</font><font color="#969">jordan</font>]] 07:32, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
== Special abilities ==
Should be added that "It can jump to as high as a third floor of a building", "The bubbles on its back and chest are bouncy, which can protect it from enemy attacks" and "It can temporarily blind its opponents when launching foam onto their faces" in the Special Abilities section. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :)]] ([[User talk:S2daam|talk]]) 11:18, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
==German name==
According to the Pokéwiki [http://www.pokewiki.de/Froxy#Herkunft] its German name is likely to come from ''Frosch'' and the words ''oxygen'' and ''{{wp|Proxy (climate)|proxy}}''. [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 10:39, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
== Attacks ==
According to [http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/pokemato/imgs/1/c/1c00a3a3.png here], the attacks of Froakie, Fennekin and Chespin have been revealed. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 18:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
:...That's been around for weeks. And they're not being added until we know that's the way they're being learned in-game. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 19:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Froakie ==
Until the page gets unlocked... here's Froakie's [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/pokemon_03.html Korean name]: 개구마르 ''Gaegumareu'' -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 02:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
:Took me a little bit, but here's what ''Gaegumareu'''s name (most likely) comes from:
:* 개구리 ''gaeguri'' (frog)
:* 말 ''mal'' (沫, bubble, foam, froth)
:It's sort of a translation of its Japanese name... though not including part about the onomatopoeia for a frog's croaking (as that's 개골개골 ''gae'gol-gae'gol''). However, I can't exactly account for why 말 ''mal'' got turned into 마르 ''mareu''. I'll just have to sort it out later. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 05:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
== Type ==
Based on Froakie's moveset from the demo, would it be safe to assume that Froakie's evolutions will be Water/Ghost combo? I know lick isn't a very decisive attack, since alot of pokémon can learn it, but the only other move that might show his typing is Round, which would mean the evolutions would be dual Water/Normal type. Or maybe I'm just overthinking the entire thing (Most likely option)? --[[User:IwAsSoMeGuY|IwAsSoMeGuY]] ([[User talk:IwAsSoMeGuY|talk]]) 21:17, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
:I'd say no, because that's speculation. It's best to wait until they're revealed to say what the type is. [[User:Turtwig A|<font color="#CD7F32">Turtwig</font> <font color="#FF7F00">A</font>]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|<font color="#green">talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|<font color="#yellow">contribs</font>]]) 21:31, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
::Virtually all Pokemon can learn moves not of their type. It's absolutely zero indication whatsoever. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 14:46, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
== Gekogashira --> Frogadier ==
The prev/next template, and the beginning "evolves into" part of the article need to be changed to [[Frogadier]] instead of Gekogashira. Thank You!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 14:57, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
== Russian name ==
Can someone please add this since the page is protected
|ru=Фроки ''Froki''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
to the in other languages section. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 14:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
:Done. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 14:41, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span>]][[User talk:Raltseye|<span style="color:#6890F0">e</span><span style="color:#6464FF">y</span><span style="color:#6890F0">e</span>]] 16:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
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