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== Opinion ==

Its resistance to Dark is impossibly useful in dealing with Ttars that decide to use Crunch, and the ilk.

Can we remove the opinion from all of thsoe segments?  They don't really state too much competitive truth, sometimes...[[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 06:43, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Question==

Generic question regarding the organization of all the type pages. Is there an appreciable difference between dual-types with a type (Fighting) as Type 2 or Fighting as Type 1? For example, Medicham is listed as a Fighting/Psychic type while Gallade is a Psychic/Fighting type. Beyond the order in which their types are listed in their summaries, is there a difference? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's half-Fighting and half-(other type) no matter what order it's in, so it doesn't really matter. Personally, the only way it would matter is with a Pokémon like Gallade (Psychic-Fighting) or Breloom (Grass-Fighting), since their other eveloutions are only a single type. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Most of the time the Pokémon would have stats, moves, appearence, and abilities that match their primary type more than their secondary type. Here's an example: Gallade/Medicham. Gallade can have more Psychic moves than Fighting moves and vice-versa with Medicham. Saybleye/Spiritomb: Spiritomb looks '''way''' more like a ghost than Saybleye. '''''[[User:GuyNamedSean|Sean...]] [[Dialga (Pokémon)|Lord]] [[User talk:GuyNamedSean|of the]] [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Shadows!!!]]''''' 22:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

==Edited==

I'm sorry, but who wrote that Fighting is weak defensively? That's very untrue, and whoever wrote it clearly has very little knowledge of the game. I edited this out. [[User:Lulz|Lulz]] 16:33, 26 June 2008 (EST)
:Yea, you could have just put it in your edit summary... [[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''TESH'''</span>]][[User_talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#B7AD96;">'''IGIGAS'''</span>]] 20:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::He/she wrote that because Dark and Rock can't affect it, and Psychic and Flying are uncommon. Actually, as a player progresses into the late stages of a game, many Psychic and Flying Pokémon appear. So, there's no problem editing it. [[User:FireHazard|FireHazard]] 02:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

That bug and fighting are one of two pairs that effect each other in the same way should be specified. Lots of pairings of types have normal damage both ways.. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Should the Challenge Rock in [[Pinwheel Forest]] be mentioned, as a Fighting-type Pokémon is required to receive the [[Star Piece]] from the Challenge Rock? --[[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 21:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

== Error ==

It says Triple Kick is a Beauty contest move but the page for Triple Kick says its a Cool move. This needs to be fixed up.--[[User:Lycos Ex Mortis|Lycos Ex Mortis]] 10:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if somebody has just overlooked this or if you are getting around to it, but the move "Overhead Throw", which has an article for itself, is not listed on the moves list. Somebody more knowledgeable about editing than I am should fix this. --[[User:ACHubbard|ACHubbard]] 17:58, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== Error in the Trivia ==

In the trivia section, it states, "As of Generation V, the Fighting type is the only type that has not been paired with the Flying-type." Isn't this incorrect, seeing as it still hasn't been paired with the ghost, dragon, electric, ice, or ground types either yet?

Not sure if I just read it wrong or not, but I just want to clear up any confusion I may have. [[User:Omnis|Omnis]] 15:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:It means that every type has been paired with Flying but Fighting, not the other way around--[[User:Cold|Cold]] <small>([[User talk:Cold|talk]])</small> 15:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, but it is an easy mistake to make. And to confirm, there is {{p|Drifblim}}, {{p|Emolga}}, {{p|Salamence}}, {{p|Articuno}}, and {{p|Landorus}} as examples for Fill-in-the-blank/Flying types. [[User:EvilKirikizan|EvilKirikizan]] 22:57, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== "They also usually fall to Psychic moves in one turn, due to a low Special Defense" ==

Whoever wrote this must not be aware of the Special Split that happened nearly 10 years ago. Back in R/B/Y when there was only one Special stat, all Fighting types had very low Special, but the thing is that this is based on their SPECIAL ATTACK stat and NOT their future Special Defense. When G/S were released the Kanto Fighting types had either slightly higher Special Defense than there Defense stat (Machamp's is 85 compared to it's 80 Defense, and ALL Hitmons have 110 Special Defense where none of their Defense stats are higher than Hitmontop's Base 95 Defense). Even lesser Fighting types like Primeape and Poliwrath had either equal or greater Special Defense (Poliwrath is the only fully evolved Kanto Fighting type to have a lower Special Defense, but the difference between it's Defense is very small and both are Base 90 or higher). The other IMPORTANT thing to notice is that BOTH statistical averages for Fighting type stats have Special Defense higher than their Defense stats (And if I haven't said so already, the REAL lowest stat is Special ATTACK, not Special Defense). So if this could be modified and replaced with mentions of low Special Attack instead of low Special Defense this would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 00:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

== Super Effective Against Steel ==

You can't explain that. But seriously, what is the rational behind this type's effectiveness against Steel? Might be a thing worthy of adding to the the trivia section. --[[User:Blaziken=Tahu|Blaziken=Tahu]] 01:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

== Focus punch ==

unless i'm just not seein it, focus punch seems to be omitted from the list of moves [[User:Gzig|DimensionBreak Gzig]] 05:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

:Its been added, good pick up. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 06:59, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

That is clerely your opinion

== Another Trivia Error ==

The trivia is inconsistent about the amount of Fighting types introduced in each gen. One trivia tidbit says Gen 5 introduced the most, only for it to say a little bit further down that Gen 1 introduced the most. Not only that, it says Gen 1 introduced 9 Fighting types, instead of the correct eight. [[User:SkyEmerald|SkyEmerald]] ([[User talk:SkyEmerald|talk]]) 01:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
:The trivia bit further down is referring to ''moves'' not ''Pokémon''. :-) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 01:45, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"All of the legendary golems are weak to Fighting-type moves. "
Is this really notable? All of the legendary birds are weak to Rock, all of the legendary pixies are weak to Dark, Ghost, and Bug, all of the Forces of Nature are weak to Ice. What makes this particular bit of trivia notable?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 12:33, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
:The other trios share a weakness just because they also share a type.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 12:47, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
::It still seems inconsequential. --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] ([[User talk:Skaisdead|talk]]) 09:42, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

==Repeated Trivia==

In two different parts in the trivia section, it is stated twice that "Fighting is the only former physical type to have all damaging moves retain their physical category". Should this be removed, and if so, should the second sentence of this bullet point be removed as well? [[User:Rmac524|Rmac524]] ([[User talk:Rmac524|talk]]) 01:46, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
:Oh, ''there'' it is, under the parallels to Psychic. If a trivia point's listed twice, why would you remove the ''first'' instance? It should only take a minor tweak to the wording to fix that. <small>[[User:Glik|glik]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Glik|glak]]</sup> 02:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

== Anime only ==

Can it be added that Arena Tycoon Greta is a Fighting-type specialist, even though this only seems true in the anime? [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 19:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
:No, "type specialist" only applies to the games. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 19:30, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

== Tallest Fighting-type Legendary ==

I don't know if this would be notable trivia or not (probably not, but I just want to know), but is Arceus (while holding a Fist Plate) the tallest Fighting-type Legendary or is it Mewtwo (in Mega Evolution X form)? Just asking! [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 21:10, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:That's three qualifiers: height, type, and legendary. Way too specific. I think/IMO even height+type is too specific. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:42, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:;If you were trying to make a point Tiddlywinks, you lost me. No offense. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 23:44, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Point: it's too specific. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Okay. Thanks. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #000080">WATER</span>]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|<span style="color: #4cbb17">Warrior</span>]]<span style="color: #000080">6</span><span style="color: #4cbb17">7</span> 00:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC)