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IT IS 17 EPPYS AWAY!! Y R WE TALKIN ABOUT IT NOW???--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 01:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | IT IS 17 EPPYS AWAY!! Y R WE TALKIN ABOUT IT NOW???--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 01:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
I think its [[Dan Green]] I think I heard it from somewhere. [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 3:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Japanese voice? == | == Japanese voice? == | ||
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Mind if I change the image to this: | Mind if I change the image to this: | ||
[[:a:File:Dawn's Piloswine.jpg]] | |||
It's in jpg tho...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 11:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | It's in jpg tho...--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 11:05, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Gender Differences: Mamowine's clearly female == | == Gender Differences: Mamowine's clearly female == | ||
[[ | [[:a:File:Mamoswine movie.jpg|thumb|210px|Mamoswine in Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]<br> | ||
[[ | [[:a:File:Mamoswine.png|thumb|left|240px|Dawn's Mamoswine in the anime]]<br> | ||
Looking at the two, I can see a clear difference. Of course, this same thing happened {{AP|with another Pokémon|Staravia}} but surely this proves that Mamoswine is female. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | Looking at the two, I can see a clear difference. Of course, this same thing happened {{AP|with another Pokémon|Staravia}} but surely this proves that Mamoswine is female. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Could just be differnces in animation between movies and anime. But I'm just playing devil's advocate now. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | :Could just be differnces in animation between movies and anime. But I'm just playing devil's advocate now. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Hey, would you guys look at this link? Dawn's Piloswine's tusks looked a little shorter than some of these... [http://www.serebii.net/anime/dex/221.shtml] [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 13:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | Hey, would you guys look at this link? Dawn's Piloswine's tusks looked a little shorter than some of these... [http://www.serebii.net/anime/dex/221.shtml] [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 13:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:None of those look like they're animated the same way, so it can't be trusted. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 14:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | :None of those look like they're animated the same way, so it can't be trusted. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 14:30, 2 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
*Well, the dubbed [[DP106]] sure put us in our places... [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 13:36, 17 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Screw the dub, they make mistakes. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:By which I mean that he is often used as a gender neutral pronoun when it would be too impersonal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:49, 17 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
::The dub says its. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 00:21, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::I Think the sentence "it'll be his first contest!" is enough proof to say it's male. Or if for some reason you really think it's female DESPITE BEING CALLED A HE, then we can do what we did with [[Darkrai (M10)|Darkrai]]. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 17:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::From what I hear, Dawn said "its first contest". And even if it was "his", that still doesn't mean it isn't possibly female in the original version. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Opposite types == | == Opposite types == | ||
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== Give to Candice== | == Give to Candice== | ||
I found this image on the image on a pokémon site like bulbapedia. [[ | I found this image on the image on a pokémon site like bulbapedia. [[:a:File:candice dawn mamoswine.png]]<small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Riolufan09}} ([[User talk:Riolufan09|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Riolufan09|contribs]]) 12:36, 11 May 2009''</small> | ||
: couldnt upload site is http://pokemonbiosphere.blogspot.com/ (not my site) | : couldnt upload site is http://pokemonbiosphere.blogspot.com/ (not my site) | ||
:Um. What? They're speculating on our lack of info? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 18:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC) | :Um. What? They're speculating on our lack of info? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 18:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::No, I think He/She was pointing evidence at The "Candice's Mamoswine" Pokemon Platinum Card. But she has a Piloswine in Platinum, which evolves prior to one of her rematches. It ain't Dawn's. Mamoswine won't leave. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 19:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Voice Actor??? == | |||
If Mamoswine's english voice actor is missing then | |||
what is this? | |||
" Dawn's Mamoswine (Japanese: ヒカリのマンムー Hikari's Mammoo) was the fifth Pokémon captured by Dawn in the anime, and her sixth Pokémon in all. Its voice actor in both Japanese and English is Unshō Ishizuka " | |||
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 04:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I forgot to remove that is all... --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
Okay :D | |||
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 05:10, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Gender == | |||
Which episode, specifically? [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 21:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
In [[DP106]].It was before Pilowswine evoled into Mamoswine.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 14:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Its confirmed. | |||
I watched DP106 and in the initial scenes dawn says "I will use piloswine this time, it will be HIS very first contest". | |||
So Dawn's Mamoswine is a male pokemon. | |||
Why don't we add it in the GENDER box? | |||
--<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 15:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I just watched that episode now. Not only does she say "its", closed captioning said the same thing. Therefor it is not confirmed male. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Dawn defiantly said HIS first time. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 07:12, 18 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Fourth or Fifth movebased evolution== | |||
"Mamoswine is the fourth Pokémon in the Pokémon anime to evolve by knowing a certain move, following Brock's Sudowoodo, Dawn's Ambipom and Jessie's Yanmega, and is the second Pokémon of Dawn's to evolve by this method." I don't think this is true, there is also Angie's Lickitung who learned Rollout and evolved into Lickilicky. [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 17:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I guess we should of said "the fourth Pokémon '''belonging to a main character''' to evolve by this method." I mean, we really don't care about Angie. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 18:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Not to mention that the Lickitung wasn't hers. She was raising it at her parent's daycare for ''someone else''; therefore, it doesn't belong to her, and so wouldn't be a problem even if Angie is designated a main character. I think switching the wording would be ideal. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 19:02, 5 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Mamoswine and Gliscor== | |||
"Mamoswine is similar to Ash's Gliscor in a couple of ways. Both of them were their Trainer's fifth capture in Sinnoh, and both are part of a Generation II evolution family and are both Ground types. They also sat out of exactly three Contests/Gym battles before finally participating." | |||
Is wrong, Gliscor was Ash's 4th capture in Sinnoh (after Starly, Turtwig and Chimchar). | |||
However this could be fixed just putting "...ther trainer's fourth capture..." as Swinub was actually the fourth of Dawn's captures too (after Buneary, Pachirisu and Buizel) because Piplup wasn't captured but given to her. [[User:Luord|Luord]] 03:04, 3 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 03:23, 3 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Gender Discussion: Part 2== | |||
After comparing Dawn's Mamoswine to Drago's Mamoswine, it is clearly seen that Dawn's Mamoswine's tusks are smaller, so can we confirm that this Mamoswine is female?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 20:45, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:No. It could be an animation error. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 21:03, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::But we can't treat all gender differences shown in the anime as animation errors.. I myself would like to add female to Dawn's Mamoswine until proven otherwise, would that be ok?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 21:44, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I would understand the animation error if this would be the first time, but we have been hinted back in M11.--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] ([[User talk:Omojuzeforever|talk]]) 21:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Gender - Dawn's VS Mamoswine's page == | |||
Okay, I'll clear this up quickly. On Mamoswine's page it says it says its gender is unknown, but if you go onto Dawn's page and look at the "On hand" section of her Pokemon, it says Mamoswine is male. Is this right? Is there a reason it's like that, or what? Cause I would not want the readers getting confused over which one. Thanks [[User:Waterninja12345|Waterninja12345]] ([[User talk:Waterninja12345|talk]]) 14:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Was a recent edit that went unnoticed. It has been removed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 14:58, 5 May 2014 (UTC) | |||