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==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method.  A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions.  There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present.  At least the main series regions.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series.  It has more of a probability of being in the next game.  Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned...  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!<small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if:  | &#32;{{{2}}} |}}''</small>
:::::How about Dracoleon? Draco IS greek for Dragon. -[[User:The REAL Dialga|The REAL Dialga]] 15:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

==Generation V==
Scince today there was the hinting of Generation V Pokémon, should a Generation V article be made to confirm the release of more to the story? ----digletdude
:That's what I'm thinking. We might need to start one out. [[User:Toastypk|<span style="color:#BB0000">'''''~Toastypk'''''</span>]] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|<span style="color:#770077">'''<sup>Loom.</sup></span>''']] 21:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was about to say the same thing...I just realized it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Maybe no now, we have to wait. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 05:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: We need an article for it, for sure, but there is no information whatsoever ''about'' it. At this point, all it'd be is speculation, which is rather pointless in the grand scheme of things. Either speculation or a couple of sentences about the picture.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 03:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Well, I for one, say that we wait untill this 'new' Pokémon actually makes its debut --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 03:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Or ,maybe just redirect? If that doesn't happen already, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 10:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Turns out to be pichu, guess we dont need a generation V article after all. ----digletdude
:::::::And I had it all prepared, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

<big>YAY, I LOVE PICHU MORE THEN EVER NOW,</big> if they started introducing gen 5, it would seriously limit chacnes of GSDS.

SO PICHU WE LOVE YOU!! --[[User:Guardian|<font color="#0000FF">Guardian</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian|<font color="#FFFF00"> of</font>]][[User talk:Guardian|<font color="#FF0000"> Earth</font>]] |[[GSDS|<font color="#00FF00">SGMS 2010</font>]]
:That was my main worry too! I was so relieved when I found out it was Pichu! Although, it seems strange that they'd block out this Pichu unless it was of importance. Perhaps its Ash's Pikachu's child! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 17:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be brilliant. [s]And he could give it to me.[/s] And it could know Volt Tackle and then go with Ash's Pikachu to use Double Volt Tackle killing off Arceus.

But what I think it is, is remember Dialga controls time, so could end up taking Ash and gang to the past. So maybe its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu. --[[User:Guardian|<font color="#0000FF">Guardian</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian|<font color="#FFFF00"> of</font>]][[User talk:Guardian|<font color="#FF0000"> Earth</font>]] |[[GSDS|<font color="#00FF00">SGMS 2010</font>]]

No, anime is Pokémon's biggest marketing tool and Pichu was a Gen II Pokémon. I have a funny feeling the GSDS is on the way. But those ear markings are odd, like its Pichu's other form . -- [[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Y cant our points both be correct. Its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu, and they are using it to advertise GSDS. --[[User:Guardian|<font color="#0000FF">Guardian</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian|<font color="#FFFF00"> of</font>]][[User talk:Guardian|<font color="#FF0000"> Earth</font>]] |[[GSDS|<font color="#00FF00">SGMS 2010</font>]]

I guess so. Either way, its still very mysterious.  -- [[User:Clarky13|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Clarky'''</span>]][[User talk:Clarky13|<span style="color:#000000;">'''13'''</span>]] 23:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

There WILL be a next Generation of Pokemon. In a GameInformer issue they had an interveiw with one of the Diamond/Pearl creators and confirmed it.- LolBot, # 18:10:56 (UTC)

==The system==
In the article it states that the games of the new generation came out on the newest Nintendo handheld system. considering that the DSi is coming out soon, should this rapid the chances of Gen 5 coming out sooner, or delaying it waiting for the next, next handheld system like we waited for the DS Lite handheld? Ths proves that the new Gen did not came out on the next Handheld sytem-or did I read it wrong...[[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 22:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Most people don't interpret the DSi as a new system, simply another upgrade to the DS. We don't even know if there'll be DSi-exclusive games yet; if so, they'd probably only be so for using the camera or something, not because they're too powerful for a vanilla DS. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]]<sub>([[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]])</sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 22:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
::Like, they didn't create a new Pokémon game for the Game Boy SP, the games that came out after it(FrLg and Emerald) wer for the GBA. The same is going to go for the DS and the DSi. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 20:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality.  It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one.  Given that, what can we do to fix it?  I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|<span style="color:#000099">evkl</span>]]''' <sub>[[User_talk:evkl|<span style="color:#006699">(need to talk?)</span>]]</sub> 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
: Stale Comment reply!: Right now, all it is is a list of things we know will happen or we think will happen. We might add a couple of pictures, but I can see how it would be hard to incorporate them. But with the latest news, it looks like we're not seeing Gen V games until mid-late 2010 in Japan, and early-mid 2011 everywhere else. However, by August of this year, we'll most likely have at least the {{p|Munchlax}} of Gen V and we can pretty much copy this article over to a rough Gen V page. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 17:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::This article is basically a list of patterns through the game series and that's all it ever can be.  As I said below, actual Gen V information would go on the Gen V pages. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== (Very!) Random Trivia ==

I've noticed something very interesting about the introduction of new Generations. One or more Pokémon from the next Generation are always revealed in the movie that features the last Pokémon in the current Generation. This has happened three times, and could well happen again:
*Pokémon the First Movie - Features Mewtwo and Mew, the last Gen I Pokémon - Introduces Marill, Snubbull and Donphan
*Pokémon 4ever - Features Celebi, the last Gen II Pokémon - Introduces Wailmer and Azurill
*Destiny Deoxys - Features Deoxys, the last Gen III Pokémon - Introduces Munchlax
In the first two cases, those were not the first Pokémon of the new Gen to be revealed, and most of them were in Pikachu shorts, but it's still quite an interesting thing to note.  If this pattern continues, then there could be one or more Gen V Pokémon in the twelfth movie (or its Pikachu short), as it features Arceus, the last Gen IV Pokémon.  Is this worth mentioning in the article, or is it just useless trivia?  [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Probably not worth mentioning if they weren't the first, but that does seem to be good research. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|10% Satisfaction Guaranteed!]] 20:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Worth it in my opinion, although most people already believe at least one will appear. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::So the movie's out tomorrow and we haven't heard anything.  There goes that pattern.  I was honestly expecting the pattern to be second movie in a generation but for whatever reason Nintendo are staying silent on the Gen V front for now.  Might be the new policy of not revealing too much until it's almost done or might just be them dragging out the time between new gens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 19:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, the time it took Nintendo to reveal the Gen IV Pokémon was ridiculous (at least two years wasn't it?). I'd rather they just revealed them all within a space of a few months.  Surely there ''has'' to be Gen V Pokémon in the thirteenth movie... [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

==Location?==
Heres something I noticed Kanto seems to be the centre with Johto to the west, Hoenn to the south and Sinnoh to the north. This suggests that gen 5 will be to the east of Kanto to me.  [[User:Psycho Mick|Psycho Mick]] 23:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Take a look at [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world|the main picture of the article]]. There's nothing to the east of Kanto. This should belong on the forums anyway. '''<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">~  <span style="color:#6c8b21;">ove</span><span style="color:#a1cf31;">rgr</span><span style="color:#c0df75;">own</span>'''</font><sup>[[User:Sol|s]][[User_talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]</sup> 23:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

I just noticed something that I don't think is there. My theory is, if there is a game set in generation five, they will have a trio and if they make a generation six then there will be the trio's master in those games. Just look here;
Gen I: Birds,
Gen II: Lugia,
Gen III: Regis,
Gen IV: Regigigas.

Does anyone agree with me?
--[[User:KelsUsedSplash|KelsUsedSplash]] 01:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:Good idea, I think that should be mentioned!--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#FF0000;">''I'm Pokelova''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<sup style="font-family:Vivaldi"><sup style="color:#FF0000;"><big>''(Talk)''</big></sup></sup>]] 01:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::Two cases isn't a pattern.  Note that the trios of Gen II and Gen IV had their masters introduced in the same generation. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 15:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:::So maybe that pattern will carry on!
:::I: Trio
:::II: Trio and two trio masters.
:::III: Trio
:::IV: Trio and two trio masters
:::V: Trio
:::VI: Trio and two trio masters
:::--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#FF0000;">''I'm Pokelova''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<sup style="font-family:Vivaldi"><sup style="color:#FF0000;"><big>''(Talk)''</big></sup></sup>]] 05:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::::And if it does, we can say that after Gen VI comes out.  But based on the data we have right now, we can't call it a pattern. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== Magnemite ==
If Magnemite's included, why not Rhyhorn?--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 17:26, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


==Generation 5 Spoiler?==
I have no clue if this is correct so I wanted to run it by you guys. Here is the link for the place I found it.<br>
http://tinyurl.com/r9hmlx<br>
I promise you it isn't anything bad, I'm not that kind of person, nor that dumb. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 06:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:Don't trust it it's full of bullshit. Something you may expect from the trolls at Y!A--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#40ad72;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFD733;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#0098d8;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 06:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

::Exactly. Girtoo thats funny. Anyways untill we get the proof , this will be spectaculation and so we cant put it here. --'''[[User:Prongs|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS ; color:gold;">Prongs</span>]] <sub>'''([[User Talk:Prongs|<span style="color:black;">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|<span style="color:black;">Contributions</span>]])'''</sub> 06:58, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright guys thanks a bunch. I didn't think they would finish the pokemon games without giving Eevee all of the types evolutions. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 18:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Ah, the ol' "my [insert family member here] works on [insert game here] and told me exclusive information" BS.  It's always 100% fake.  Also, when we do get info from reliable sources, it would go on the relevant Gen V pages rather than here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm wondering what could be the artwork of the new Eeveelutions, i think ZYPIN would be cool if it is confirmed....same goes with the other Regi-form..we cant trust maybe GEN.5 pokedex will appear before the Diamond and Pearl series ends..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #6890F0;">Angel</span>]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|<span style="color: #C0C0C0;">Guardian</span>]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 09:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Make it already! ==
I'm getting really mad. I will blow up it someone don't type an article about G5 in 5...4...3...2...1....1 1/2...1 1/4...1 1/8... just someone make and article for my sake!!!!--[[User:The Bulb&#39;s Master|The Bulb&#39;s Master]] 13:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh... dude. No confirmation of generation. No article. Calm down and go and do something else. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 22:02, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== Well I kinda notice something. ==

Before a new generation starts, the last movie in the generation involves water.
Movie 2-Lugia Generation 1
Movie 5-Lati@s Generation 2
Movie 9-Manaphy Generation 3
Only guessing Movie 13-Lugia Generation 4
It's not that big of trivia or anything, I just noticed it.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 11:26, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Lati@s aren't Water. Their [[Psychic (type)|Psychic]] /[[Flying (type)|Flying]]. You've also have to take into account, MB, that movie 13 hasn't been cofirmed to star Lugia (or that it'll be the last gen. IV movie, for that matter). [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|<sub><span style="background:#FF8040"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">Shiny</span></span></sub>]][[User:ShinyPikachu|<span style="background:#FFFF00"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Pika'''</span></span>]]

::MB said that they ''involve'' water, not that the main Pokémon are Water-types. But still. That isn't something that should go in. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 21:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:::@ShinyPikachu: Um. Lati@s are {{t|Dragon}}/{{t|Psychic}}. '''[[User:E-123 Ω|<font color="#FF1111">E-123</font>]] - [[User talk:E-123 Ω|<font color="#000000">Ω</font>]] [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/member.php?u=27033 ナックルズ]''' 22:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

==About Arceus==

"The legendary pokemon are more powerful in new generations. With Arceus as the god Pokemon of the universe, it would be hard to make a stronger one."
I HATE this argument. Just because it is credited with creating everything does NOT make it omnipotent, or unsurpassable in any other way. Technically, it's only been known to do one thing, and that's creating other pokemon (Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf) which in turn did all the work of creating the universe. And it's arguable that legendary pokemon are mor powerful in each generation (until Arceus, I don't think even the base stats of them were ever improved upon much-- are Groudon and Kyogre that much more powerful than Ho-oh and Lugia?). I'd say their powers and range of influence are just made "cooler", and I doubt Game Freak would be at a loss for that-- Many other fundamental aspects of the universe still have no legendary pokemon to call their own, like life and death. I'm not saying that this argument should be deleted from this page; after all, this is about the fandom, and many fans have the opinion "ARceuS Is gOD!!!1! ZOmG GameFreaKs caNT FoLlow Taht up!!!1!!!!!111!"
I just think it should be rephrased, maybe as "Some people argue that because Arceus created the Pokemon world, Gamefreak would have difficulty making a more awesome pokemon next generation in order to maintain interest in the franchise." Something like that. Any thoughts?  --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 23:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, who said, in the current generation, there has to be stronger pokémon then the last.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#7F7E83">Midnight</span>]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|<span style="color:#191970">''Blue''</span>]]''' 23:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::The whole article is fanspeculation. It is a valid argument, and I've rephrased the whole entire section to make it somewhat more encyclopedic. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 07:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that's much better. Even I couldn't have phrased it that well! Thanks! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont think that arceus is directly referred to as a god but his ability to create the three dietic dragons and the three lake gaurdians make his ability '''DIVINE'''(like all other legendaries), so there's no point of dubbing him as a god. And that would be offensive to religions, so nintendo would've thought of that point before approving of arceus'release to the fourth generation.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
:It is not stated as such any more. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 19:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

::I believe somewhere in Gen IV they mention people worshipping Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus as gods. It might be Cynthia's grannie I'm thinking of, but she says that Dialga and Palkia were "revered as dieties" or something like that. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 23:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

that is exactly what i'm saying, 'revered as dieties' but not actual gods, but actually the sinnoh myth is based on shinto which might possibly have been confusing for the pokémon community.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

:But diety refers to gods, or somthing/someone on the level of a god. If you can find a meaning that's different, then please do. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:08, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'm no longer arguing that it isn't a "god" (as the word itself is quite vague. All I was saying is that the assumption that Game Freak won't be able to come up with something more powerful, as well as the assumption that they have to with each new generation, are both misconceptions. And again, as this is about the fandom's opinion, and many are of the belief that Nintendo has to do both of these things to make a new generation (and that they couldn't if they wanted to), I think the amended wording suits it fine. {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}
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== page is messed up ==

I suggest rearranging the page into several sections or put into a table--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary pixes and the DS rumor. ==

1) Apparently this thought came to me; what if the fifth generation has a leader for the legendary pixies, like how the other trios have a leader (Lugia, Ho-oH, and Regigigas) of their own?

2) There is speculation going on the internet that a supposedly new DSi successor will appear in the TGS of late 2010. Apparently so, this may confirm the possibility of a fifth generation and the availability to trade in fourth gen Pokes within the game since it will have backwards compatibility. {{Unsigned|Piplup}}

== um..... ==

there could be a future Generation starting off at Route 49 getting rid of that LONG gap between [[Route 48]] and [[Route 101]]--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 17:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)