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== No Form Burmy == | == No Form Burmy == | ||
Can someone upload a screen cap from [[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]] of the Burmy that Dawn tried to capture after all of it's leaves had fallen off from Piplup's Bubblebeam? I think it'd be a good addition to the article. | Can someone upload a screen cap from [[DP002|Two Degrees of Separation!]] of the Burmy that Dawn tried to capture after all of it's leaves had fallen off from Piplup's Bubblebeam? I think it'd be a good addition to the article. | ||
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What about these games?Does evolution is similiar to main series games, or different? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 18:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC) | What about these games?Does evolution is similiar to main series games, or different? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 18:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Trivia == | |||
The trivia mentions something about "sonw-cloak" and "water-cloak", however, I think that this information is rather some kind of speculation. Shouldn't it be removed? [[User:Teddi'Ampha|Teddi'Ampha]] 14:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:It's not speculating. It's just saying they don't exist, despite there being snowy and watery terrain. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 14:41, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Brr, Bur and Burr == | |||
When you are cold, you might shiver and say "brr" then cover yourself up, just like Burmy covers itself. Besides, many Pokémon names consist of corruptions of words, so "brr" could still fit. | |||
Even if its not that kind of "brr," than "bur" and "burr" should still be mentioned based on the definitions for the words bur and burr. Bur is a variant of burr, which both have a number of meanings, some of which could easily befit the concept of Burmy. | |||
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bur | |||
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/burr | |||
Its agreed that Wormadam is a mixture of worm and "Madam" a term used for addressing a woman, especially one of refinement (when not referring to a Madam that runs a brothel). What is the opposite of this? a peasant, someone who isn't refined and wears clothing of poor material. Also to speak with a burr is to speak roughly, indistinctly, or inarticulately. This would obviously not be the manner in which a more refined person of social status would speak. I guess the best way to look at this would be to imagine how the Queen of England speaks, and then imagine how someone with a cockney accent speaks. Burr is also a buzzing or whirling sound that, since Burmy is a bug-type and bugs can make buzzing or whirling sounds, this also fits. | |||
Wormadam is like a member of high social standing. Burmy is not yet refined enough to be a madam, it is still just a rough around the edges Pokémon. Burmy is only a commoner that uses a cloak to try and look the part, but its cloak consists of a patch work of whatever materials it has lying about. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:52, 25 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
:I'm not too convinced by any of these suggestions, but for the record, in case it affects anyone else's judgment of the matter, none of these are in any way corroborated by the Pokédex except the "brr" to cover from the cold (Diamond and X entry: ''To shelter itself from cold, wintry winds, it covers itself with a cloak made of twigs and leaves''). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Well like I said, most of the names are mix-match corruptions or words. You mix brr with worm you get burm. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:11, 26 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Cloak after rare candy == | |||
If a female burmy evolves from leveling it up to level 20 via rare candy , would it evolve into a wormadam with the cloak matching the area you used the rare candy on it, the cloak it was in prior to using rare candies on it , or something else? [[User:Boorider7|Boorider7]] ([[User talk:Boorider7|talk]]) 16:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Rare Candy doesn't change Burmy's form; only battling does. It will maintain the same form that it had prior to using Rare Candy. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:34, 27 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
==Ultra Space cloak== | |||
If you use Pokémon bank to transfer a burmy to sun and moon , and you use burmy in Ultra Space , what cloak will it change to? [[User:Boorider7|Boorider7]] ([[User talk:Boorider7|talk]]) 18:04, 15 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:That's a good question, but as it's not a native Pokemon (only accessible through the Pokemon bank) I imagine nothing special happens. It either stays in the cloak it previously was in, or I imagine it will go back to it's default state (Plant), just like it does after fighting in water. Would love to see it tested though. -[[User:Uncleben85|Uncleben85]] ([[User talk:Uncleben85|talk]]) 07:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== "Wormy" Burmy == | |||
With Burmy's name origin being a little muddled ("brr" and "burr" being a little questionable), might there be some legitimacy to the word "wormy"? I know we already have "worm" there, but I don't mean "wormy" as in "worm-like", but instead either as in "infested with/home of a worm", since Burmy burrows into nearby materials and takes over to create a cloak, or as in "weak", since Burmy is the first in the evolution line and a weak Pokemon. Burmy also sounds a lot like "wormy". -[[User:Uncleben85|Uncleben85]] ([[User talk:Uncleben85|talk]]) 07:24, 5 February 2017 (UTC) | |||
== No Cloak == | |||
Should we really have No Cloak Burmy in the infobox? It's not really a real form, just like how Pokedex Rotom isn't a true Rotom form. I believe one of the mods on the bulbapedia discord said something along the lines of "forms that aren't mechanically significant don't go in the infobox". --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:23, 4 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
I added the official artwork of Burmy without a cloak to the biology section of Burmy, similar to Marshadow with its fighting spirit burning, but it was undone. Am I missing something and the official artwork is indeed already on the page? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 23:26, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
:There's already an image in that section. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:29, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Yes, the anime picture, but I don't think it would hurt to add the artwork of Burmy without a cloak as well, especially since it's official Sugimori (style) artwork. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 23:32, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::We don't need two images for the same thing. One's fine. (If you really want, pick favorites. As far as I'm concerned it's fine as is, though.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Evolution Places == | |||
There should be three categorizes for places which evolve Burmy into particular Wormadam.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:23, 26 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
:If you mean putting location pages into categories based on the Cloak Burmy changes into after battling there, unfortunately it's more complicated than that. I've done a lot of research into environmental effects in Generation 6 and 7 (and a little bit in Gen 8, but only Nature Power exists, so there's not much to it). For Gen 6, you can read [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Environment]] for the full listing of what every location changes Burmy's Cloak to. (Gen 7 I haven't published yet, and earlier Gens I haven't researched.) --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:03, 26 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Possible Origins of Burmy's (and Wormadam's) Cloaks? == | |||
While it's clear that Burmy is inspired by a bagworm larva, and that its plant cloak is inspired by the twigs bagworm larva cover themselves with, I think its other forms potentially draw inspiration from other insect larva. I believe the Sandy Cloak is possibly inspired by caddisfly larva, which cover their bodies with materials such as sand and pebbles, while the Trash Cloak is possibly inspired by lacewing larva, which are also known as junk bugs because they cover themselves with random debris including the leftovers of their meals, i.e. trash ([https://entomologytoday.org/2020/10/30/insect-costume-designers-dressed-impress-halloween/ source]). However, I wanted to check and see if this is appropriate to add to the Origins section rather than just go ahead and do it. At the very least I think it should be mentioned that Burmy's cloaks possibly stem from the fact that bagworm larva cover themselves with plant material such as twigs. --[[User:SpinyShell|SpinyShell]] ([[User talk:SpinyShell|talk]]) 02:03, 22 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
:That sounds like a reasonable addition to the Origin section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I was thinking the same thing before, but I've since found out that some bagworms actually do use sand and home materials to construct their cases. [[User:Icycatelf|Icycatelf]] ([[User talk:Icycatelf|talk]]) | |||
:::I'd say that's fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 04:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Hidden power checker == | |||
In Pokémon black 2 the hidden power checker doesn’t tell me what type Burmy’s hidden power is like in gen 4 | |||
Do we need to check other games because it seems weird that it wouldn’t work in games from 2 different gens [[User:PanPan 23|PanPan 23]] ([[User talk:PanPan 23|talk]]) 16:05, 25 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Snow Storm == | |||
It's currently stated in the intro that Burmy will change into its Sandy Cloak in snow storms during Gen IV. I find this this a little unclear as to what it's referring to. Overworld hail? Or areas that happen to have constant snow fall? [[User:WOLKsite|WOLKsite]] ([[User talk:WOLKsite|talk]]) 10:24, 14 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Randomised overworld weather doesnt impact the form, its referring to areas like [[Sinnoh Route 217]] and [[Kalos Route 17]]. There just isnt a consistent way to describe these areas based on terrain. [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 17:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC) | |||