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== Steel type ==

Hay, wiat. What about the Effect Spore ability? Can't ''that'' poison the steel? Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''10:39 25 May 2008'''''
:If its not a posoin type move it should be able to poison steel pokemon--[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">Shut the **** up</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub>
::Steel type Pokémon can not be poisoned. {{unsigned|MathijsP}}

:::Actually, {{m|Twineedle}} has been known to poison {{t|Steel}}-types, at least in [[Generation II]] (although the chances it was changed for later generations is highly unlikely...).  Being a {{t|Bug}}-type move, it's the only known move that can inflict poison anywhere that isn't of the {{t|Poison}}-type (which Steel is immune to), hence it can poison a Steel-type.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
::::The questions is if it still poisons, or if steel types are now immune. Also, Poison Point or something like that inflicts poison as an ability. I should make a multi-hit and Twineedle test team (when I get the time) to check some things that are uncertain. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 18:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Should correct ==

In this page in the table from gen2 onward it said that poison type deal 1/2 damage to bug type.It is wrong should we correct it?[[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 13:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh I am a bit confuse dont worry about this it is nothing><.[[User:Meearaimeng|Meearaimeng]] 13:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Generation V introduced Bug-type Pokémon with base stat totals over 500" ==

Yanmega's base stat total of 515 would like to disagree with that. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 23:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Defense Column ==

Shuckle, Forretress, Crustle, Durant, Escavalier, Vespiqueen, Pinsir, Scizor, Armaldo. There are '''9''' Bug-type Pokémon with a defense stat of 100 or more, and Bug-type Pokémon have higher defense than special defense '''on average''', yet the Bug-type "Defense" column consistently focuses on how low their defense stat is; in fact, their "low defense" is the only real reason given for Bugs to be defensively-flawed, which is preposterous. Well, it does talk about Bug/Flying-types' double weakness to rock, but that's only relevant to '''19%''' of all Bug-types.

I'm honestly only an intermediate-level Pokémon player, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but it seems as though the "Defense" portion of the Bug-type page is seriously outdated, to the point of blatantly irrelevant information. Someone with more experience/knowledge then me really needs to ''completely rewrite this column'', and soon.
[[User:Gridelin Glass|Gridelin Glass]] 19:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

== Signal Beam not on move list ==

I went through the list of moves, and [[Signal Beam]] was not on there. [[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] 08:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
:Looks like it was missed when the list was changed. Fixed now. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 09:50, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

== Psychic-types that take neutral damage from Bug-type moves are pretty rare ==

I removed the "(which are fairly common)" qualifier at the end of that part in the Offense section.  Though six types resist Bug (Flying, Ghost, Fire, Steel, Poison, and Fighting), there are only a few Psychic-type Pokémon that take neutral damage from Bug-type moves: Lugia, Xatu, Sigilyph, Swoobat, Victini, Zen Mode Darmanitan, Metagross, Bronzong, Jirachi, Gallade and Medicham.  Counting the pre-evolved types there are 17 total (Natu, Woobat, Beldum, Metang, Bronzor and Meditite), which is exactly ¼ of the 68 total Psychic-type Pokémon.

And of this 17, only 3-5 of them can fairly be considered common no matter what mode of play is being considered: Metagross, Bronzong, Gallade, and Medicham and Jirachi in order of relative relevance.  While competitive standard play now allows Jirachi, no official Nintendo format or in-game mode has, which goes as well for Victini and especially Lugia.  NFE Pokémon are by default not common, Zen Mode Darmanitan is only possible with a less-than-ideal HP percentage (especially for a slow Fire-type weak to {{m|Stealth Rock}}) and Xatu/Sigilyph/Swoobat are all rather uncommon in any mode of play.

[[User:Jumpman16|Jumpman16]] 19:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

== Problem ==
Look at here:
[[File:B2W2 type chart.png|thumb]]
X-Immunity
Triangle- Resistant
O-Super Effective

I took the scan from the Pokémon Magazine about BW2, it looks like in the new games are going to have a possible change on the type chart, I don't know if it is a typo or if it's real, but if so it would change everything: Sableye and Spiritomb would lose their so-called immunity to all the types, the bug-type would lose its status as the weakest type, i'm not sure, but if it is real we must be alert to quickly cover this entries.

PS.:Sorry for my bad english, I speak Portuguese. --[[User:Igor Castro Chucre|Igor ]] ([[User talk:Igor Castro Chucre|talk]]) 14:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
:We know. We're waiting for the games to come out first. It could always be a typo. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 14:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

== Wormadam ==

The bug type number and percentages of pokemon is kind of silly. It has variables to account for multiple forms of wormadam, which I have two problems with:
1) If wormadam's additional forms are considered separate pokemon for how many bug types there are, then they should also be considered separate pokemon for the total of pokemon there are, reducing their alternate percentage 10% even. 
2) If wormadamn's additional forms are counted on some merit other than their pokedex number (in this case, I would wager it's because of type combinations) Then pokemon that have alternate forms that fit this criteria, namely Rotom, should be counted in "total pokemon", dropping the percentage further (especially if it merely becomes forms with alternate movesets). 

Basically, the line with wormadam is either unnecessary, or not given enough attention. [[User:TheHateHat|TheHateHat]] ([[User talk:TheHateHat|talk]]) 21:35, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

== Overall ==
I changed the overall for the {{type|bug}} for the following reasons:<br>HP - 3642 / 65 = 56.03<br>SpAtk - 3508 / 65 = 53.969 ~ 53.97<br>Total - 24157 / 65 = 371.646 ~ 371.65 &mdash; [[User:Reshi643|Reshi643]] ([[User talk:Reshi643|talk]]) 18:52, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

== protection ==

it isn't protected because the mods forgot to. simple as that. [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 09:22, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

== Offense ==

It still mentions Bug's weakness against '''six''' types rather than seven. [[User:EnosShayrem|<span style="color:#697437;">Enos</span>]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Shay</span>]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#0088FF;">rem</span>]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|<sup><span style="color:#000000;">Ta</span><span style="color:#BBBBBB;">lk</span></sup>]] 23:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #224a9a"><b><span style="color: #2b5fc7">M</span>asatoshi</b></span>]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #118eb2"><sub><small>''talk''</small></sub></span>]] 23:38, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

== Bug move before gen 4 ==

the section saying about how only [insert moves] bug moves were over 25 bp before gen 4 seems unneeded to me. That was also over half of all offensive bug moves at the time. you'd be better off saying it was hard to use them offensively at all or pointing out that there weren't a lot of moves in general.