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:::Hm... Google Translate isn't 100% accurate as we know. Saying that "氷触体" is Glacial Body might not even be close to what would be made in the English version of the game. It's almost like saying that "ツタージャ" (Snivy's Japanese name) is "Ivy Ja" in English translation. In the miss-spelt of this creature that I put as "氷'''蝕'''体" instead of "氷'''触'''体", I put my miss-spelt "氷蝕体" into Google Translate and it came up as "蝕体 ice", but when I separated the "氷蝕" from the "体" in Google Translate, it came up as "Glacial Body. So really, how would we really know that it's "Glacial Body"? Google Translate can't be reliable when it comes to name translations. It probably would be just like as what the Pokémon names would be and would originate from, except that it's in Kanji. Remember, you've just gotta think about the name origin. We need someone that knows and reads Japanese, not someone that puts it through Google Translate to translate it, 'cause it can be inaccurate. —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 05:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | :::Hm... Google Translate isn't 100% accurate as we know. Saying that "氷触体" is Glacial Body might not even be close to what would be made in the English version of the game. It's almost like saying that "ツタージャ" (Snivy's Japanese name) is "Ivy Ja" in English translation. In the miss-spelt of this creature that I put as "氷'''蝕'''体" instead of "氷'''触'''体", I put my miss-spelt "氷蝕体" into Google Translate and it came up as "蝕体 ice", but when I separated the "氷蝕" from the "体" in Google Translate, it came up as "Glacial Body. So really, how would we really know that it's "Glacial Body"? Google Translate can't be reliable when it comes to name translations. It probably would be just like as what the Pokémon names would be and would originate from, except that it's in Kanji. Remember, you've just gotta think about the name origin. We need someone that knows and reads Japanese, not someone that puts it through Google Translate to translate it, 'cause it can be inaccurate. —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 05:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::And also, another thing... people who put "氷触体" (the correct Japanese spelling of Hyoshokutai) through Google Translate would find that it comes up as "Body ice touch". And would we really consider that name as an actual English name to move this page to? | ::::And also, another thing... people who put "氷触体" (the correct Japanese spelling of Hyoshokutai) through Google Translate would find that it comes up as "Body ice touch". And would we really consider that name as an actual English name to move this page to? —[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 05:32, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::In any way, it should not be at Hyōshokutai, for the same reason [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth]] was never at "Pokémon fushigi no danjon magunagēto to mugendai mei kyū": it is a romanization, not a translation. Then again, if we consider it a name and not a term, it definitely should be here... does anyone have access to the Japanese trademark database? Perhaps it is officially romanized there or somewhere. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 05:33, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::::::Considering that it's written in kanji as opposed to katakana (or hiragana), the meaning of the name is made more apparent, though it wasn't explained well in the game. As for the translation, I propose 'Glaciated Body' as an alternate name, considering that 'glaciated' appeared in [http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110000291845 another article]. --[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|Chao]]'''」</small></sub> 07:43, 16 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hmm...well 'Glaciated Body' sounds good and all, but I want to ask a question. When someone was translating the Japanese name for Dark Rust and got 'Black Rust,' wasn't it the same way as trying to figure out the english wording for Hyoshokutai? If so, then I might consider using 'Glaciated Body' for our pages. If not, then I think we should just stick with using 'Hyoshokutai.' I'm not great with translating, but those are just my thoughts. [[User:Uncle Edit|Uncle Edit]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 03:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Image of Hyoshokutai == | |||
I've uploaded a higher quality image of Hyoshokutai, but the image on Bulbagarden Archives is not synchronizing with the Bulbapedia Wiki, instead it just shows the image at the same width and height as the newer one I uploaded, but it's in the same quality as the old one I had uploaded weeks ago. | |||
I wonder if I could upload the better quality one to a different name and then edit to change the name of the image it links to? | |||
—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 03:09, 23 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Wait. Syncing takes time. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 10:55, 23 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Types == | |||
Does Glacial Body have a type, and what type is it's attack? {{unsigned|Doggy567123}} | |||
I haven't played the game, but I'm guessing that Glacial Body doesn't have a type at all, much like how Dark Rust does not have a type. I have a feeling that its attacks don't have types either. I know it's all speculation, but those are my educated guesses. By the way, please sign your posts so that others can see when you posted. [[User:Uncle Edit|Uncle Edit]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 02:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Second Battle (second attempt) subsection == | |||
Okay, so when I boil down to it, I think the subsection title 'Second Battle (second attempt)' sounds really weird. Does anyone else think that we should rename it or remove it altogether? Or am I viewing it incorrectly and we should leave it be? Whoever posts, thanks for the help! [[User:Uncle Edit|Uncle Edit]] ([[User talk:Uncle Edit|talk]]) 04:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, it should be removed. It was originally thought to be a third battle as when there was only one available video, the player in the video lost and had to attempt the second battle again. Either way, it is not a third battle. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpJYVRmdwQ This] video shows what happens if you don't happen to lose, confirming that second, third, fourth etc attempts are not necessary, but still possible. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] ([[User talk:Bluesun|talk]]) 12:04, 11 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Opening tooltip == | |||
We normally show the hiragana there, don't we? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:22, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== English name == | |||
I wonder if anyone has actually finished the English version of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity yet? If someone already has, then please do put the English name of Glacial Body down here and move the page to it's new name. I'm kinda speculating that it's probably going to be called something like "Ice Cluster" or something like that.—[[User:Platinum Lucario|Platinum Lucario]] ([[User talk:Platinum Lucario|talk]]) 13:02, 25 March 2013 (UTC) | |||