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:Not illegal per se... More like, catching legendary Pokémon throws off the balance of nature and causes untold disaster. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 07:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:Not illegal per se... More like, catching legendary Pokémon throws off the balance of nature and causes untold disaster. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 07:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


::Uh yeah, what he said...also, I don't think Ash is strong enough to earn the respect of each and every one of the legendaries...[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0F243E">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]]
::Uh yeah, what he said...also, I don't think Ash is strong enough to earn the respect of each and every one of the legendaries...[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0F243E">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="col
10:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
est?  You see my point.  In the games strength does matter but in the anime, it's a completely different story.  
 
You're right about that.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 01:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:I doubt that it's strength alone that determines the respect of a legendary. What really counts is heart and Ash has a lot of it.  I mean how many legendary Pokémon did he help save already? Mew, Lugia, Celebi, Latias, Jirachi, Manaphy.  He doesn't want to capture them because he knows that it might destrupt the world.  If Mew were captured, who would protect the Tree of Beginning? If Celebi were captured, who would protect the forest?  You see my point.  In the games strength does matter but in the anime, it's a completely different story.  
:And I defenately don't believe he's a disgraceful trainer because his Pokémon didn't want to evolve.  If you recall, Pikachu and Bulbasuar didn't even want to evolve.  A disgraceful trainer, in my mind, is some one like Paul.  One who forces his Pokémon to the limit even though they can go no further.  But I guess people would be afraid to call Paul desgraceful because he is actually based on us, the players, who look for the best Pokémon and get rid of the ones that don't live up to our standers. In my mind, maybe all of us should try to be more like Ash.  But I guess we are just to worried about losing once in a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 02:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:And I defenately don't believe he's a disgraceful trainer because his Pokémon didn't want to evolve.  If you recall, Pikachu and Bulbasuar didn't even want to evolve.  A disgraceful trainer, in my mind, is some one like Paul.  One who forces his Pokémon to the limit even though they can go no further.  But I guess people would be afraid to call Paul desgraceful because he is actually based on us, the players, who look for the best Pokémon and get rid of the ones that don't live up to our standers. In my mind, maybe all of us should try to be more like Ash.  But I guess we are just to worried about losing once in a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 02:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


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Hey, I hardly even play the games anymore. I've more or less done everything there is to do on them. And, oh yeah, I imagine. Just about every night and every day. And I sure agree that very few people know what it is like to live the life of a Pokémon trainer (except if you were like a Pokémon freak and did exactly what Ash did). But to be quite honest, I am not in bad shape^_^. I'm not trying to really diss Ash, he's probably an all right sort of guy, but I just can't help thinking that he is sort of a slow learner. And I think that I would do my research before I start my big, long, away from home journey, so that I know at least a Pidgey or a Caterpie when I see one. Also, if my Bulbasaur or Pikachu didn't want to evolve, then I don't think that I would use it, maybe look after it as a pet, but not use it in battle.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 08:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I hardly even play the games anymore. I've more or less done everything there is to do on them. And, oh yeah, I imagine. Just about every night and every day. And I sure agree that very few people know what it is like to live the life of a Pokémon trainer (except if you were like a Pokémon freak and did exactly what Ash did). But to be quite honest, I am not in bad shape^_^. I'm not trying to really diss Ash, he's probably an all right sort of guy, but I just can't help thinking that he is sort of a slow learner. And I think that I would do my research before I start my big, long, away from home journey, so that I know at least a Pidgey or a Caterpie when I see one. Also, if my Bulbasaur or Pikachu didn't want to evolve, then I don't think that I would use it, maybe look after it as a pet, but not use it in battle.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 08:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[<i>"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on--the Champion is waiting."</i> ~ Karin of the Johto Shiten'no, Gold/Silver/Crystal Versions.  Satoshi doesn't play the same game you do.  He does as his heart tells him, he listens to his Pokémon, and he works with them, becoming the type of trainer they admire.  He doesn't force them to evolve because he cares about their feelings in the matter. But he doesn't just abandon his lower-staged Pokémon or leave them to live peacefully at Orchid-Hakase's corral because he believes in their abilities, and knows that with enough effort and determination, even a Pikachu or a Fushigidane or a Zenigame can overcome their stronger counterparts or more.  Pikachu was even strong enough to beat Regice, because Satoshi believed and trained and strategized.  Personally, I train parties with favourites, and try to arrange them to become combat worthy, instead of just choosing party combinations to form various teams that have strategies that they are built upon.  I build from the ground-up, using what I want, and so does Satoshi.  I'm not saying it's the best way, and I certainly have a lot of trouble in the competitive scene and the In-game equivalents (Trainer Towers, the Battle Frontier and the Battle Zone), but at least it doesn't devolve simply into a game of crunching numbers and picking out the right natures and items and abilities.  Oh - and since there's apparently no level cap in the anime, Satoshi can keep training his Pokémon to become stronger if he's having a hard time, instead of it becoming a standardized Lv.100 battling environment like in the games.  Just my 10cents.  ~Kumori Satosuke 17:46, 22 October, 2007 (EST)