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== Joining? ==
How do you get the Project Shipping banner on your profile? I'm a member, but I want people who look onto my profile to know that I am.
sincerely,
evan, a fan of aaml  -EVAN AAML

Hmm, Project Shipping huh?...sounds like fun! I'll help anyway I can!
sincerely,
evan, a fan of aaml  -EVAN AAML

Since this has a few members could I join? --[[User:Agent 219|Jemar]] 10:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Of course you can! Just sign in in the Project Page.--'''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 22:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

HI! I'd like to help the Project, how can I?--'''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]'''01:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Just stick your name in...
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Agent</span>]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">448</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 01:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to help. The shipping section is the part of this site I read the most! :) [[User:Hikari|<span style="color:#FF594F">Hikari</span>]]

I like to read about couples. How more do I like to help out on articles about couples! How do I join? [[User:Big-Time Crush On Ash|Big-Time Crush On Ash]] 02:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Just add your name to the list of participants.  You don't need to ask permission. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 02:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I would like to join but I know I can't help. Is that OK?[[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 02:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Can I join too?--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawnfan47]] 02:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[[Image:Spr 3e 151.gif]]

Of course you can join! Just need to sign in! -'''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 21:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 22:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Umm... May I join too? And can anyone explain how to sign in? I'm sort of new to this --[[User:AmberFire284|AmberFire 284]] (Erm, I ''think'' I did it... am I right?)

I would like to join--Paul'sDialga

I've been wanting to join this for awhile. And how do I make the link to my user page blue instead of red? It says I don't have permission to edit. But I'm not trying to edit, just linking to the page. -- [[User:Dani|Dani]]
:Add your name to the member list on this page. You won't be able to do anything to your own user page just yet, though. The link is red because the page doesn't exist; to create the page, you have to edit the page; and nobody can edit their pages right now because the Admins have put a ban on userspace edits in place. --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>))]]</sub> 16:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

==Tag==

How can I do the Tag to the Project Shipping? I don't konw how to do Tags.--'''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]'''02:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, they had no time to make a tag for Project Shipping...
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Agent</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 02:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

It's because of this that I want to do the Tag, but I don't know how.--'''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]'''02:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I might know how.. but I'm not a member ^^; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 02:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

That's OK, I just need some help to do the Tag, you don't need to be a member of this Project to help '''me'''.-- '''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]''' 02:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

::Here's the tag BASE - go ahead and edit it and such.. like change the image, rewrite the sentence.. that's the base. [[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox/Tag]]. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">Tina</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">The</span>]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#E75480;">Kirlia</span>]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 03:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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|-
| [[Image:DP Young Couple.png|70px]]
| This article is part of '''{{bp|Project Shipping}}''', a [[Bulbapedia:Projects|Bulbapedia project]] that aims to write comprehensive articles on each [[Shipping|couple]] in [[Pokémon]].
|}

Well, here is the best thing that I can think, so, how is it?--'''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]'''03:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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! style="background: #fff0f8;" | [[Image:DP Young Couple.png|60px]]
| style="background: #f6b9e4; color: #936;" | This user is a member of the '''[[Bulbapedia:Project Shipping|<span style="color: #936;">Shipping Bulbapedia Project</span>]]'''.
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And, how about this? Is that good?-- '''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]''' 03:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Good enough for now...
[[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Agent</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 04:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Homoshiping ==

Shou we point out which ships are homsexuel in the redrets? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 16:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think need this. Why do you think so?-- '''[[Image:038MS.gif]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[Image:Leaf.png|33px]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|33px]]'''17:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:You'd know if it was or not, because the shippings say the names. If it's two guys or girls... well, you know the deal. Don't think we need this, but it was a sorta good idea. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">TinaTheKirlia</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">♪</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#E75480;">☆</span>]][[Image:Ani281MS.gif]]</sup> 17:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Just in case people can't tell from the title like 3rd weal shiping I thought is was Brock and May. for exmple. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 21:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
:We could name the characters in the redirects.  That way viewers could know if it is a pairing they want to avoid without us implying anything negative about homosexuality. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 02:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thats a good idea. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 17:45, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== This is a BIG project ==

:I'm glad there is interest in improving the shipping articles.  Just bear in mind that they need a lot of work.
:My input is this: Lose the evidence lists.  If we replace them with prose from the perspective of why fans believe in the particular pairings then the articles will become far more encyclopediac.  That way, we can describe them in a more truthful manner and acknowledge the few ships that are actually canon.  Does this sound agreeable? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 02:14, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, to me it's good in this way. -'''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 19:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

It's perfect. [[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]]

==Names==
Are we running out of names for ships? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 02:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:I wouldn't think so. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 02:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::No way, man, no way. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 03:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm just saying some ships have dumb names. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 17:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:It's because half of the ships (no offense to anyone!) are rather crazy anyway. I mean... I always considered one of the rules for making a new ship, number one being 'It HAS to be something rather twisted.' But that's just me. XD; [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 18:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::Once all the sensible ships are covered, it's inevitable to go crazy from there.  Which ships have dumb names anyway? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 18:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

"HandymanShipping",...-'''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 18:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:Tracey does lots of odd jobs around the Gym just because Daisy asks him to. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 20:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

All of Brocks Ships have bad names. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 21:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:Really? BoulderShipping, FatherShipping, GymShipping... I dunno, those are good names.. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 21:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

There are just 5 Shippings with good names: PalletShipping, PokéShipping, ContestShipping, GymShipping and AdvanceShipping. -'''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 21:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I agre with her, but I will add Rocketshiping to that. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 01:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)



I'm beginning to get really confused by all the ship names. Why do we favor one ship title over another? Just because it's more "popular"? Shipping is just a weird part of the site in general, but why do we need to reference some list (incomplete list of shippers)? A lot of it is so arbitrary and almost embarrassing to list on the site as an article title. Could I make a suggestion that maybe we change the naming convention so it simply lists the characters involved in the title? i.e. "Shipping:Ash/Misty". That way there's less explanation needed and we avoid awkward situations like the guy who stumbled upon ThirdWheelShipping and didn't expect it to be a homosexual ship. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 21:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

That might work, by the way I was that guy. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]☆
:I'm thinking maybe add the names of the characters to the shipping redirect. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 01:43, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I aprove. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
::These are the titles the fandom uses so of course we have to use them.  If you want to check what a ship is called, go check the list. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 01:19, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

== Question ==

If for example Dawn sates that she is a lesbian, will that slam the lid on PearlShipping? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 16:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)☆
:I really think that'd never happen. No other character (Except maybe Harley. Just in a different way.) have screamed 'I'M GAY' or 'I'M STRAIGHT'. [[User:Tina|Tina]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]</sup> 17:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

We are talking hypificaly here. And I agre Harly's gay. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 17:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:Why would Dawn ever state that she is or is not a lesbian?  Romance is a minor part of this show.  There is no reason for the sexuality of the characters to ever come up. 
:Plus, why single out PearlShipping anyway?  The only thing that will slam it down is if another ship involving Dawn is confirmed as canon and that will count against all the others as well. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 20:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Forget it. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 21:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

=Overall Goals?=
Can I get an example of a really good shipping article? Something to work toward and emulate for other pages?

Also, someone mentioned ways to get the pages more encyclopedic? Are there any other suggestions?

As far as evidence lists go, I do think that the pages are focused a bit too much on them. It makes them all seem like little fan pages, and some of them are beyond a stretch of the imagination. I also think an important thing to note is that Japanese fansites focus far less of "evidence." Their fanart and fanfiction deals with an idealized situation of what it would be like for the characters to be together. Although the coupling would never work in canon--something that American sites seem to be out to "prove" could work--the Japanese seem to ignore all that.

What would the articles be if you took out the evidence? I think that's a big question we need to ask ourselves. Not to say that should happen, but there should be a bigger reason for them, I think. --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 21:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

:I have no Idea. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 01:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
::We'd still have the evidence, just not in full lists.  Articles on canon ships would discuss the actual events that show the nature of the ship.  Articles on fanon ships would simply state why some fans are convinced that the writers are going that way. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 01:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes fan Ships, I have a great Fan Ship in my Sandbox. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]

==Pikachu==
I think Pikachu should have a Ships with category. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 18:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

It's good. '''[[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]][[Image:May.png|31px]]''' 19:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

i mean Thee should be "Ships with pikachu" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]

Got it Paul and J! it's perfit. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]

== Rules on new page ==

I was wondering, what is the rule on creating a new shipping page? Can anyone create one? I want to create a shipping page for Dawn's Piplup x Ash's Pikachu (which I have named BubbleSparkShipping). I saw nothing in the article, and figured this was the best place to ask... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 19:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)