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I've done some research on confusion and confusion damage, and it turns out that some of the usual damage modifiers do apply, based on the generation. However, there are details I am not willing to test myself, such as whether/when it considers {{m|Power Trick}}, {{a|Slow Start}}, or many more. I don't even think this is worth any template, but in case someone wants to go into such detail, I've hidden potential influencing factors within [[User:Nescientist/Confusion (status condition)|the article]] (probably not even all of them), and I'd appreciate anyone testing and getting rid of some question marks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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This is not possible because the S.S. Anne will only leave Vermilion City if the captain is healed; The boat can't be driven by a seasick captain. If the captain is healed, the player will receive the HM01, making it impossible for the boat to leave unless the player has the HM. 21:51, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

:This doesn't answer the question. The S.S. Anne and Seagallop ferry can't both be present at the same time. It's irrelevant whether the S.S. Anne leaves or not—what happens if the Seagallop ferry is present? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:36, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

::When HM01 Cut is obtained from the captain, it turns on a flag that makes it so that the player leaving the S.S. Anne makes it leave the port (however HM01 is obtained from the captain after he is healed), and later (when the Tri-Pass is obtained) the Seagallop replaces the S.S. Anne at the port. 16:30, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

==[[Generation V]]==

===Ring Target===

Does the ring target cause the holder to lose only immunities granted by their types, or by both their types and abilities?

 

:Reply: When I tested this, Earthquake failed on an [[Eelektross]] holding Ring Target. I can therefore conclude that the Ring Target removes only type-based immunities. [[User:Haxorus|Haxorus]] 13:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

 

If two parents with the same nature hold an everstone, then is there a higher chance of that nature being passed down?  If the parents have different natures, then is there a high chance of either nature being passed down?

 

Although the target's attack and defense are used in damage calculation, whose attack modifiers are calculated?  I swear it does less to the opponent damage when I'm burned, although I've never tested it.

:{{m|Foul Play}} currently reads: "With the exception of the Attack stat and Attack stat modifier, all other factors affecting damage calculation, including the item, Ability, and status ailment of the user of Foul Play, are incorporated as normal." --22:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

 

:Reply: also, moves that have effects will no longer cause a certain effect after the move was used(for example, A fire punch executed holding a Life Orb will negate the 30% burn AND the Life Orb after move damage, most like Magic Guard). I dont know if this applies also to the Choice items. If anyone can confirm this, it would be appreciated

 

The trainers have individual set values (80/70 for the ones who are less likely to leave and 30/20 for those who are more likely to leave). Once Black City and White Forest are reached, talking to them/battling them adds ten points to their value counter. Do these characters cap at their original max value (80/70/30/20; meaning if you spoke to them for two weeks straight [140 points accumulated], then ignored them for five days, a character with a 20 point value would vanish), or do they obtain a surplus and stick around for as long as the gained points allow?

 

 

Considering I've left my game alone for 10 days or more, I believe it can be safely assumed that characters build up a surplus. --[[User:Vlax|Vlax]] 18:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

 

Does the chance of flinching caused by the King's Rock stack with moves that have a chance of cause flinching?  A few people have suggested that it has been adjusted to prevent stacking in the Generation V games.  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

::While I will thank you for that data, I would just like a second opinion since you are very interested in the article on flinching. I do not mean to be rude, but I would just like to have another person double check.  :)  --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

 

 

 

 

If in a Double Battle or Triple Battle with multiple Pokémon with the abilities {{a|Dark Aura}} or {{a|Fairy Aura}}, do the effects of the Abilities stack or is it just a one-time increase? 23:44, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

:Additionally, if they do stack, do they stack additively or multiplicatively? For example, if there are two Pokémon with the same Aura Ability, do moves of that type deal 1.66× the normal damage (<code>1+0.33+0.33 = 1.66</code>) or 1.7689× (<code>(1+0.33)*(1+0.33) = 1.7689</code>)? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:04, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

 

How exactly do the points work for style? The man selling mega stones is a good reference, but what activities raise style, and by how many points? How many points does it take to unlock things like the boutique or lower the prices for mega stones? {{unsigned|PlatypusVenom}}

 

 

 

I'm sure the original person who added that meant that, if a (say) {{p|Paras}} is transferred from Gen III (where its only Ability was {{a|Effect Spore}}) to Gen VI (where it has a second Ability, {{a|Dry Skin}}), if its personality value is odd so that it "should" have its (new) second Ability, it will still have Effect Spore after it evolves into Parasect (in contrast to Gen IV or V, when Parasect would have gotten its "proper" Ability, Dry Skin).

 

But the person's phrasing confuses me. Is Gen VI's mechanic simply to allow a Pokémon to keep an Ability as long as it can? That is, if a {{p|Venonat}} is transferred from Gen III (where its only Ability was {{a|Compound Eyes}}) to Gen VI (where it has a second Ability, {{a|Tinted Lens}}), if its personality value is odd so that it "should" have its (new) second Ability, will it evolve into a {{p|Venomoth}} (who has Abilities {{a|Shield Dust}} and Tinted Lens) with Tinted Lens like it "should" have, since it can't keep Compound Eyes? Or...would it keep its ''first'' Ability (its "Ability slot"?) if it evolves and end up with Shield Dust? (You can check if a Venonat "should" have its second Ability by test-evolving a Gen III Venonat in Gen IV or V. If it becomes a Venomoth with Tinted Lens, then you can reset the game and transfer the Venonat to Gen VI to test the same thing in Gen VI.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

:Ability slot is supposed to refer to whether the Pokémon has its first or second Ability. So a Venonat caught it Gen III that has an odd personality value will evolve into a Venomoth with Tinted Lens in Generation IV and V; if that same Venonat is sent to Gen VI without evolving it, its Ability slot is stuck as the first slot (except using an Ability Capsule), so evolving it won't change the Ability slot to the second Ability Tinted Lens, but keep the same Ability slot resulting in Shield Dust. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 19:34, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

 

* Is this new to Gen VI?

* Is this at all variable? I.e., maybe there's a random factor, but maybe it only randomizes when a new day starts.

* Is it reliant on a "fresh" pair of Pokemon, or at least one "fresh" Pokemon? I.e., if one (or if both) have bred before, will the first Egg when they are left at the Day Care be random? Or is the logic that, ''any time'' two Pokemon are left at the Day Care, the first Egg will always be set and only the second and later Eggs will actually be random?

:This did not occur in B2W2, so yes, it's new to Gen VI. <small>- ''[[User:GoldenCelebi|<span style="color:#DAA520;">Golden</span><span style="color:#78C850;">Celebi</span>]] ([[User talk:GoldenCelebi|pedia talk]] • [[Bulbanews:User talk:GoldenCelebi|news talk]] • [[a:User talk:GoldenCelebi|archives talk]])''</small> <small>19:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</small>

 

Aura Break causes Fairy Aura and Dark Aura to decrease the power of Fairy/Dark-type moves instead of increase them. If a Pokémon with Mold Breaker (or a similar Ability) uses a Fairy/Dark-type move, does it negate Aura Break, the Aura Ability, or nothing? So if a Pokémon with Mold Breaker uses Dark Pulse while there is both a Pokémon with Aura Break and a Pokémon with Dark Aura on the field, does the move deal normal damage, 1.33× normal damage, or 0.67× normal damage? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

:It was confirmed some time ago that Mold Breaker has no effect on Aura Break. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

 

While I can guess what would happen in this case, I think it's still best to test it (since Magic Guard behaves oddly). If a Pokémon with Mold Breaker/etc. uses Roar/etc. and forces a Grass-type Pokémon to switch in while it has an ally with Flower Veil, will it be poisoned by Toxic Spikes or have its stats lowered by Sticky Web? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

 

Upon being forced in to battle by a Mold Breaker Roar, Grass-type Pokémon are both Poisoned by Toxic Spikes and have their Speed lowered by Sticky Web; even when partnered with a Pokémon with the ability Flower Veil on the field. [[User:LegoFigure11|LegoFigure11]] ([[User talk:LegoFigure11|talk]]) 13:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

 

If Meloetta has Parental Bond (via Skill Swap, etc.) and uses Relic Song, does it change form after each hit (resulting in two form changes) or only after both hits (resulting in a single form change). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

 

Skill Swapping a Meloetta Parental Bond and using Relic Song results in only one Form Change (which takes place after the second hit). [[User:LegoFigure11|LegoFigure11]] ([[User talk:LegoFigure11|talk]]) 12:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

 

Does Grassy Terrain only halve the power of {{m|Earthquake}}, {{m|Bulldoze}}, and {{m|Magnitude}} when they are Ground-type moves? If they have their type changed by {{m|Electrify}} or {{a|Normalize}}, is the damage still halved? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:20, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

 

I did the testing myself, using Normalize. On my Alpha Sapphire, I have a {{p|Spinda}} with {{m|Skill Swap}} and a {{p|Floette}} with {{m|Grassy Terrain}}. On my X, I have a {{p|Skitty}} with Normalize Ability and a {{p|Teddiursa}} that knows Bulldoze. Skill Swap is a must because the only Pokémon with Normalize are the Skitty family and they don't learn Bulldoze and company naturally.

 

Turn 1, Spinda uses Skill Swap on Skitty. Spinda gets Skitty's Normalize, giving it {{a|Contrary}}; Skitty's move does nothing (in this case {{m|Foresight}}). Turn 2, Skitty tags out to Teddiursa and Spinda uses Skill Swap on it, giving it Normalize in exchange for {{a|Pickup}}. Turn 3, Spinda tags out to Floette, and Teddiursa uses Bulldoze, reducing Floette's hp from 122 to 37 (85 damage). Turn 4, Floette sets up the Grassy Terrain while Teddiursa uses {{m|Sweet Scent}}, burning that turn. Turn 5, Floette uses {{m|Lucky Chant}}, effectively doing nothing, and Teddiursa likewise (another Sweet Scent). Turns 6 and 7, same story, and Floette's hp go back up to 65, ready for the next Bulldoze, with Grassy Terrain still in effect. Turn 8, the Bulldoze hits and Floette survives on 19 hp (46 damage).

 

 

When a Pokémon with any of these Abilities is rotated out in a [[Rotation Battle]] or has its Ability suppressed or replaced by a move or Ability, do the [[weather conditions]] that are created by these Abilities ([[Harsh sunlight|extremely harsh sunlight]], [[Rain|heavy rain]], and [[strong winds]] respectively) remain on or disappear from the battlefield if another Pokémon with the same Ability is still on the field? And in the case of a Rotation Battle, does whatever result only come about if the other Pokémon with the same Ability is currently in a rotated in/rotated out position?

 

 

 

::I have tested these situations, taking Delta Stream as the exemple. When a Pokémon with Delta Stream enters the battle, the ability only activates if the Pokémon is sent out in the active position, and won't activate just by rotating the Pokémon in. The only other way to activate Delta Stream is when a Pokémon recieves the ability in the middle of the battle (via {{m|Skill Swap}}, for exemple). If a Pokémon with Delta Stream is already on the field, and the ability is already in effect, sending out a second Pokémon with Delta Stream won't trigger the ability again, but having the second Pokémon in battle will keep the mysterious air current in effect even if the Pokémon that originaly created it loses the ability, is rotated out, switched out, or faints.

 

::In Mega Glalie's case, it does not matter, as it always holds a Mega Stone. Sylveon, Amaura and Aurorus are the only cases where this matters. In these cases, the type of gem used is the type the move is changed to, not normal. I just gave an Amaura a Normal Gem and had it use Take Down in a battle facility, with the gem not consumed by this. [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:33, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

 

::You have a number of misconceptions here, but perhaps the biggest one is that there's nothing that's forcing the Rayquaza to Transform into the Pokemon it copied Transform from in the first place. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 20:39, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

:::Abcboy actually looked into this, although he messaged me privately rather than responding here. Learning Dragon Ascent via Mimic does not allow Rayquaza to Mega Evolve. On the other hand, apparently Mimic cannot copy Transform in Generation VI. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:59, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

 

* Pokemon Bank can bypass the box unlock requirements in at least Gen VI. What happens if the player does this to fill their boxes in XYORAS so that they cannot catch Xerneas/Yveltal/Rayquaza during the mandatory cutscenes?

:::Cool! This brings up another thing to test: what happens if the player triggers the second event without triggering the first? Is any of the dialogue different (since it mentions the player remembering something Steven said)? Along with the Nincada one, this is going to be time-consuming to test though... [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 04:22, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

 

:I believe so. When you have Boxes you haven't unlocked yet, if you open the game in Bank, you can see them, but they're empty. I never tried putting Pokémon in those Boxes, however. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

With Pokémon Let's Go, variant height and weight were introduced, Low Kick's description states that it works based on weight (unlike the original games).

My question is does it go by the Pokemon's weight, or the species average weight?

Every Pokemon now has an average weight/height, and a standard deviation of weight/height. The standard deviation is exactly 1/8 of the average, except for Alolan Exeggutor, where it's 12.6% instead of 12.5% of the height (very minuscule difference, and the height ratio is still the same). (The standard deviations are in the [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pokemongo-dev-contrib/pokemongo-game-master/master/versions/latest/GAME_MASTER.json GO master file]). To get the extremes:

max/min_height = avg_height  +/- 3.2 * stdDev_height = avg_height +/- 3.2 * (avg_height/8) = avg_height +/- 40%(avg_height)

max/min_weight = avg_weight +/- 5.6 * stdDev_weight = avg_height +/- 5.6 * (avg_weight/8) = avg_weight +/- 70%(avg_weight)

[[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 21:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)