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:::The specific Pokemon mentioned are all just appearances/behaviors, which do not automatically mean anything absolute. You said originally that "bending the rule" (for Charizard here) would "lead to excuses" for those; but those cases are nothing like Charizard because (as far as you've explained, anyway) there is no extra material of any sort stating their gender. Accepting Charizard's gender based on Tomioka's comment in the book won't change anything for them. | :::The specific Pokemon mentioned are all just appearances/behaviors, which do not automatically mean anything absolute. You said originally that "bending the rule" (for Charizard here) would "lead to excuses" for those; but those cases are nothing like Charizard because (as far as you've explained, anyway) there is no extra material of any sort stating their gender. Accepting Charizard's gender based on Tomioka's comment in the book won't change anything for them. | ||
:::If your issue with the Attract-Captivate clause perhaps boils down to "it must occur in the anime", that's being just a little too strict. You can consider that "clause" a tool of convenience. It's a very good, very convenient tool, but it doesn't ''necessarily'' account for/preclude ''every'' possiblity. We can't start off '''knowing''' every possibility to guarantee that it accouts for them all satisfactorily. Again, it's still a fine tool; 99% of the time that "clause" conveys exactly what we need to. But that doesn't mean we can never accept something else like, say, a promotional poster somehow, or a book. A discussion divorced from that "clause" is worthwhile when such new cases arise, based on the new source's own merits, and reasonably informed—but not automatically dictated by—past lessons. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 5 May 2018 (UTC) | :::If your issue with the Attract-Captivate clause perhaps boils down to "it must occur in the anime", that's being just a little too strict. You can consider that "clause" a tool of convenience. It's a very good, very convenient tool, but it doesn't ''necessarily'' account for/preclude ''every'' possiblity. We can't start off '''knowing''' every possibility to guarantee that it accouts for them all satisfactorily. Again, it's still a fine tool; 99% of the time that "clause" conveys exactly what we need to. But that doesn't mean we can never accept something else like, say, a promotional poster somehow, or a book. A discussion divorced from that "clause" is worthwhile when such new cases arise, based on the new source's own merits, and reasonably informed—but not automatically dictated by—past lessons. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 02:12, 5 May 2018 (UTC) | ||
== Image Placements == | |||
Would like to gauge some opinions here. At the moment, an image of Ash and Charizard in Unova (featuring Ash in Black & White clothing) is found in the Johto section - this is because the image originally depicted Ash and Charizard in Johto, but years later it was replaced with a screenshot from the more modern season, without moving the file's location to the Unova section. | |||
I figured a simple solution would be to just use both images in each respective season, to represent the more modern season and the more iconic season equally, without compromising either one of them - see here: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Charizard&oldid=3421343] | |||
However, my edits were reverted, with the same applying to a similar edit showing [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Infernape&curid=15763&diff=3421342&oldid=3421233 Ash and Infernape] in both the Sinnoh League and their Journeys reunion, given that we have plenty of space + the importance of balancing modern artstyle with Infernape's more relevant season. The edit summary of the revert called it "unnecessary" in Infernape's case, and that "the old location was better" for Unova Ash in Johto, but I wouldn't want to leave it at that without checking other people's opinions - is there any reason why we can't just have more than one image to showcase more than one season? <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]]</span> 19:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC) | |||