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:Good catch! However, please note that just linking to [[:Category:Moves that have variable power]] will not be enough to include all exceptions; some moves that are (currently) listed as {{cat|moves that power up}} do also not fit that pattern. Until someone finds a better formulation, I think the current formulation ("for moves with fixed base powers") may be quite sufficient. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
:Good catch! However, please note that just linking to [[:Category:Moves that have variable power]] will not be enough to include all exceptions; some moves that are (currently) listed as {{cat|moves that power up}} do also not fit that pattern. Until someone finds a better formulation, I think the current formulation ("for moves with fixed base powers") may be quite sufficient. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
::Why doesn't someone just create a move category called "Moves with abnormal Z-Power Calculation"? ([[User:Yater31|Yater31]] ([[User talk:Yater31|talk]]) 05:46, 9 December 2016 (UTC))
::Why doesn't someone just create a move category called "Moves with abnormal Z-Power Calculation"? ([[User:Yater31|Yater31]] ([[User talk:Yater31|talk]]) 05:46, 9 December 2016 (UTC))
:::I've found out that [[Multi-strike move#2-5 strikes per turn|moves of 2-5 strikes per turn]] use their 3-hit power for the calculation; [[Multi-strike move#2 strikes per turn|moves of 2 strikes]] and [[Multi-strike move#3 strikes per turn|moves of 3 strikes]] their 2- and 3-hit power (which includes {{m|Gear Grind}}); and most of [[:Category:Moves that have variable power]] their unmodified power (e.g. 150 for {{m|Eruption}} and 120 for {{m|Wring Out}}), or their median or the bigger of the two middle values in their set of values (e.g. 70 for {{m|Magnitude}} and 80 for {{m|Grass Knot}}). I think the prevalence of 80 in this way has made 160 a "standard" for "the exceptions," the Z-moves from moves such as {{m|Return}} and {{m|Power Trip}}. More rigorous analysis are welcome, though.--[[User:Earthoul|Earthoul]] ([[User talk:Earthoul|talk]]) 13:00, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


== List of all Z-Moves ==
== List of all Z-Moves ==
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