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→Move: oppose - what if "base stats" refers to the final values shown on the Summary screen and not EV's specifically?
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::My opinion is that once October 12 hits, we should check the game script to see how it refers to the values currently known as EVs. If it is '''completely unambiguous''' that it's "base stats", there is a possibility of the page being moved. Bulbapedia's policy has always been to only add 100% confirmed material, and the descriptions of the vitamins in generations III-V were ambiguous and could be referring to "base stats" as the stats at the beginning of battle before any stat changes are applied, e.g. something with 300 Attack having a "base stat" of 300 Attack. We should treat page moves, especially moves as important as this one, with the same 100% confirmation rule. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 03:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | ::My opinion is that once October 12 hits, we should check the game script to see how it refers to the values currently known as EVs. If it is '''completely unambiguous''' that it's "base stats", there is a possibility of the page being moved. Bulbapedia's policy has always been to only add 100% confirmed material, and the descriptions of the vitamins in generations III-V were ambiguous and could be referring to "base stats" as the stats at the beginning of battle before any stat changes are applied, e.g. something with 300 Attack having a "base stat" of 300 Attack. We should treat page moves, especially moves as important as this one, with the same 100% confirmation rule. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 03:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
Well, game's out and it's pretty unambiguous that base stats are what EVs are now officially referred to as, meaning that this page is going to have to find a new home. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 09:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | Well, game's out and it's pretty unambiguous that base stats are what EVs are now officially referred to as, meaning that this page is going to have to find a new home. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 09:19, 27 October 2013 (UTC) | ||
:I somewhat oppose the move, for two reasons: | |||
:* We already use "base stats" for a ''species's'' base stat ratings. | |||
:* "Base stats" could also refer to the '''final values shown on a Pokemon's status screen''', which we know are a combination of {{tt|five things|species, level, Nature, IV's, EV's}}. | |||
: Now it is true that the term "base stats" has been officially used in reference to vitamins and EV berries since Gen I (and III), but because (Super Training aside) the '''only''' thing you are shown is the final values, we don't know exactly what the official term is referring ''to''. E.g. if you give a Vitamin to a Lv.40 Pokemon you are not told that it's a +10 boost to their EV's, you are told that their "base stat" increased -- and indeed, the ''value on the Summary screen'' shows a +1 boost. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 04:12, 2 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
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