Talk:Base stats: Difference between revisions

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:"''Each Pokémon has some stats that will grow more easily than others and some stats that will take more work to raise. The inside (green) part of the Effort-o-Meter graph shows the stat levels relevant to each Pokémon species. The outside (yellow) part of the graph shows the base stat increases that your Pokémon has achieved through Super Training.''"
:"''Each Pokémon has some stats that will grow more easily than others and some stats that will take more work to raise. The inside (green) part of the Effort-o-Meter graph shows the stat levels relevant to each Pokémon species. The outside (yellow) part of the graph shows the base stat increases that your Pokémon has achieved through Super Training.''"
The green part is a Pokemon's base stat, and the yellow part is the base stat increases. That is, the yellow part shows how many effort values the Pokemon has gained, it's just not mentioned by name. To sum it up, I think Nintendo is just not using a name for what we know as "Effort Values", they just use the term "base stat increases", '''with "increases" ''being'' the "effort values"'''. I therefore think the term "effort values" should stay and Base Stat not moved. Or, if anything, have Effort Values moved to something like "Base Stat increases". [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 01:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
The green part is a Pokemon's base stat, and the yellow part is the base stat increases. That is, the yellow part shows how many effort values the Pokemon has gained, it's just not mentioned by name. To sum it up, I think Nintendo is just not using a name for what we know as "Effort Values", they just use the term "base stat increases", '''with "increases" ''being'' the "effort values"'''. I therefore think the term "effort values" should stay and Base Stat not moved. Or, if anything, have Effort Values moved to something like "Base Stat increases". [[User:Angela-Samshi|Angela-Samshi]] ([[User talk:Angela-Samshi|talk]]) 01:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:The use of the term "stat levels" in the Effort-o-Meter makes it clear that they've now renamed both things, so leaving "base stats" at its current location is not an option. You've raised a valid point, though; with this new information, it seems like "base stats" are now the term Nintendo's using for the combined "stat levels" + "base stat increases"/"EVs"/whatever. Nintendo's not being too clear on this, though. Maybe "base stats" should be an umbrella/disambiguation page directing users to "stat levels" and whatever the term we use for EVs is? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)


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::What the fans once called base stats are now officially known as '''stat levels''', it would seem. That means that we can move this page to Stat levels and move Effort values to Base stats, yes? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 01:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
::What the fans once called base stats are now officially known as '''stat levels''', it would seem. That means that we can move this page to Stat levels and move Effort values to Base stats, yes? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 01:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
:::That sounds canonical to me. Let's move it. For the record, we also need to fix instances of "stat levels" where people have loosely used it to refer to stat modifiers throughout the wiki. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 01:40, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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