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:Horde Encounters do not increase the shiny rate. Five Pokémon means that you're five times more likely to have ''any'' of the members of the horde be Shiny, yes, but the random generator still creates ''each individual'' Pokémon with the same rate as normal. As for the Friend Safari, I haven't seen anybody say anything about an increased Shiny rate there except people idly speculating based on anecdotal evidence like you're doing right now. We can't report it as true until either (A) we hack the game and check the data ourselves or (B) a high-quality (i.e. sample size of several thousand, at least) statistical analysis is performed. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | :Horde Encounters do not increase the shiny rate. Five Pokémon means that you're five times more likely to have ''any'' of the members of the horde be Shiny, yes, but the random generator still creates ''each individual'' Pokémon with the same rate as normal. As for the Friend Safari, I haven't seen anybody say anything about an increased Shiny rate there except people idly speculating based on anecdotal evidence like you're doing right now. We can't report it as true until either (A) we hack the game and check the data ourselves or (B) a high-quality (i.e. sample size of several thousand, at least) statistical analysis is performed. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
::The probability posted by Yamitora is very accurate, but it's calculated in a wrong way; by that logic, a 4096-Pokémon horde would ''always'' include a Shiny Pokémon. The true probability of encountering at least one Shiny Pokémon in a Horde Encounter is 1 - (4095/4096)^5 or about 1/819.6.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | ::The probability posted by Yamitora is very accurate, but it's calculated in a wrong way; by that logic, a 4096-Pokémon horde would ''always'' include a Shiny Pokémon. The true probability of encountering at least one Shiny Pokémon in a Horde Encounter is 1 - (4095/4096)^5 or about 1/819.6.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::The probability he posted of a battle ''containing'' a Shiny might be accurate, but that's neither how the games are programmed nor how our pages are presented. The probability of a particular Pokémon being generated as Shiny by the algorithm is the same regardless of whether that's in a Single Battle, a Double Battle or a Horde Encounter. Claiming on our page that a Horde Encounter has a higher Shiny rate would be misleading. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:33, 28 January 2014 (UTC) | |||