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 :5) I went with a harsher tone in the edit summary and harsher tone in the message because Pumpkin has a '''history''' of ignoring staff messages and continuing edit wars. You have not be here long enough to know how Pumpkinking edits and behaves. He has been blocked before for similar behaviors. Don't act like you know Pumpkinking's editing patterns. If it was anyone else with such a long and "decorated" history, I would've also given them a harsh penalty based off that.
 :6) There is nothing to "self reflect" on my end. Pumpkinking was being the usual stubborn Pumpkinking he has always been. Not sure why you think this was necessary when 1) you don't know his history and 2) the matter has been resolved (for now).--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 17:36, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
+::First of all, thanks for answering.
+::1) That makes it all the more weird. Pumpkinking laid out how that reasoning doesn't make sense (and "Claim 1 doesn't imply Claim 2"), from their very first edit summary all the way down the talk page. As I said, I tend to agree.
+::2) I didn't defend their behavior, so we're fine here. (And by "ignore", of course, I meant that you ignored their legitimate concerns, not that you literally didn't answer.)
+::3) You said that after he had done a totally different thing, one that I'd have digested as the talk page's consensus of sorts. (But in general, you're right of course, edit warring is bad.)
+::5) I've been active for more than three years, which means I've witnessed more than 8000 of Pumpkinking's edits. I won't pretend I know every single of them by heart, but if I claimed I knew his editing patterns, you could hardly call that acting. Anyway, I wasn't arguing that at all; ultimately, I was saying exactly what I was saying: that you went for a harsh penalty for what could very well have ended in a consensus.
+::6) Frankly, lack of self reflection, too, is behavior I would rather not see from a staff member. If you're being honest, you're being just as stubborn. I wouldn't know how I'd need to know Pumpkinking's history before writing what I wrote. And finally, you just declared that matter resolved after you blocked the other party; I would hardly call that "resolving". I already said I tend to agree, so you could've realized it's not resolved from my end.
+::I left a message on abcboy's talk page, requesting a third party (or fourth, idk) to help re-evaluate, resolve and oversee the issue. (Of course, feel free to invite any other staff member.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:05, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 == Inconsistency ==
 For a good time now, I've been bugged by the fact that the downloadable PWT tournament about the Unova League is title as "You Can Challenge the '''Isshu''' League Too!" while another downloadable tournament is titled "Challenge the Champion '''Lance'''". Shouldn't the Unova League tournament's title be translated as "You Can Challenge the Unova League Too!" for consistency's sake? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:13, 23 October 2019 (UTC)