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::::I don't even like referring to "stat level" as "the closest we do have to an official term".  I don't consider it anything more than an accident.  I would prefer "Species stat" for ''some'' clarity over "Stat level"'s kludginess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I don't even like referring to "stat level" as "the closest we do have to an official term".  I don't consider it anything more than an accident.  I would prefer "Species stat" for ''some'' clarity over "Stat level"'s kludginess. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I agree that it would be more elegant to have separate names for base stats and EVs. However, we do not have an official term for base stats, as we now do for EVs, meaning we would have to make up a new term as this separate name. As an encyclopedia, it is our job to record information and represent it neutrally, not to create new information. Our articles should reflect the viewpoints of Game Freak and the community, not our personal opinions. Therefore, as it is clear that Game Freak has not provided us an official name for base stats, it would be irresponsible of us to use anything other than an established fan term. "Species stats" or "stat levels" may sound nice, but the only people who use these terms are those on this talk page. "Base stats (fan term)" or equivalent (please do suggest alternatives for the text in parentheses) is the only new title this page could have if it is to be of any practical use. [[User:Ninjask|Ninjask]] ([[User talk:Ninjask|talk]]) 22:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I agree that it would be more elegant to have separate names for base stats and EVs. However, we do not have an official term for base stats, as we now do for EVs, meaning we would have to make up a new term as this separate name. As an encyclopedia, it is our job to record information and represent it neutrally, not to create new information. Our articles should reflect the viewpoints of Game Freak and the community, not our personal opinions. Therefore, as it is clear that Game Freak has not provided us an official name for base stats, it would be irresponsible of us to use anything other than an established fan term. "Species stats" or "stat levels" may sound nice, but the only people who use these terms are those on this talk page. "Base stats (fan term)" or equivalent (please do suggest alternatives for the text in parentheses) is the only new title this page could have if it is to be of any practical use. [[User:Ninjask|Ninjask]] ([[User talk:Ninjask|talk]]) 22:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::The guidebook also refers to a Pokémon's base stats (what we once called base stats) as "the strengths of its species" (also referring to IVs as "the strengths of the individual" but let's get this naming fiasco done one at a time). Perhaps "Species strengths" is also a possibility? Keeping it as base stats (fan term) is only going to cause confusion. It really is a shame we can't get any official word on this. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 22:21, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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