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{{indent}}Saw these when you added it and thought that it was one hell of a stretch. Like it's one thing to try to look for connections, but at what point does it come off as trying to grasp at straws? Cause that whole "trivia" certainly reached that point. Long story short, try not to go too over board with it, it's not always that deep.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 05:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC) | {{indent}}Saw these when you added it and thought that it was one hell of a stretch. Like it's one thing to try to look for connections, but at what point does it come off as trying to grasp at straws? Cause that whole "trivia" certainly reached that point. Long story short, try not to go too over board with it, it's not always that deep.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 05:52, 20 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
:I'm very glad to see that you've learned from your mistakes and are using the talk page to discuss this, TurtwigFan4848. That being said, not every possible method of getting the number eight from something related to Pecharunt is notable. Many of these suggestions seem like coincidences rather than intentional design choices to highlight the connection between Pecharunt and the number eight. Addressing them individually: | |||
:* Pecharunt is a Mythical Pokémon. All Mythical Pokémon have a base stat total of 600 besides Phione, Arceus, Keldeo, and Meltan. Its base stat total has nothing to do with the number 8. | |||
:* Learning a total of 16 moves by leveling up is likely a coincidence, especially since some of those aren't actually learned by leveling up—they're only available via move reminder. A wild Pecharunt can't learn 16 different moves. | |||
:* Learning moves at levels which are multiples of eight may be an intentional design decision, as from the sample of Legendary/Mythical Pokémon that I looked at, most of them learn moves at a regular interval (every 8 levels, every 9 levels, every 10 levels, etc.) but the length of that interval varies. Pecharunt may learn a move every 8 levels because of its connection to the number 8. | |||
:* I am very, very skeptical that *any* consideration was given to the number of type matchups it has when picking its type. Its lore and design are far more important considerations. The fact that a Poison/Ghost Pokémon has any connections to the number 8 in its neutral, resisted, super effective, or immune type matchups is pure coincidence. | |||
:* The fact that you have to swap two numbers to connect its Pokédex number to the number 8 indicates that you're stretching to make a connection there. | |||
:I'll touch on the ones currently in the article as well: | |||
:* Most of its stats being 88 is definitely an intentional design decision, especially as this results in all of its stats (except Defense) being below average for a Mythical Pokémon. | |||
:* It being caught at the end of the epilogue at Level 88 is definitely an intentional design decision. Most Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are caught at a level that's a multiple of 5, so there was clearly intent in making Pecharunt different from the norm here. | |||
:* The signature moves of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon often have only 5 PP. Moves with 5 PP always have a maximum PP of 8. Malignant Chain having a maximum PP of eight is purely coincidental. | |||
:* The Loyal Three being bound by a total of eight chains is likely an intentional design decision, as I don't believe Pokémon designers would throw more chains on Okidogi or Fezandipiti "just because". | |||
:So, to summarize, the only trivia point noted here that I think is reasonable to add is the fact that all its level-up moves are learned at multiples of eight. I also think the points about Malignant Chain having a maximum PP of eight and Pecharunt taking neutral damage from eight types, which are currently on the page, should be removed. [[User:Storm Aurora|'''<span style="background:-webkit-linear-gradient(left,#9CB8C6,#625A88);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Storm Aurora</span>''']] ([[User talk:Storm Aurora|talk]]) 05:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC) | |||