Talk:Mew (Pokémon): Difference between revisions

Mew doesn't listen to its original trainer? Is this true? --[[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 20:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this always the case? I've seen a hacked Mew (Gen IV) that (according to the owner) is completely obedient. Could this be because the friendship level is so high, or is it just a fluke? [[User:Featherflame|Featherflame]] 20:51, 8/10/07

In Gen III, Mew and Deoxys have an obediance bit. If this is missing, they won't obey. It is possible to hack a Mew or Deoxys and have it obey. To answer the question, it depends on how it's hacked. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]

If a mew that is transfered from a GBA game that was hacked to get it,will it corrupt the D/P game? And will it listen? I'm just asking.  [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MAXDude17]]

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

::Correction: without a using a cheat device.  Most would consider abusing a glitch to be the same as cheating.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 23:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- [[User:Awar|Awar]] 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC).

~--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok so Arceus tottaly conflicts with with mew but arceus came from an egg. What if mew was the egg and therefor is the ancestor of all pokemon mew just didnt "create" any new pokemon. In fact it was never even mentioned (to my knowlage) that he did. So therefor mew remains to look like a embryo (catching drift egg) and we shall never know~kittenchild

Well by my theory and using the myths it states that "...at the heart of chaos where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the original one." This states that the egg came before arceus. {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

oh and by this theory im not saying arceus didnt create the pokemon universe im saying mew didnt realy "create" anything he just kinda was there... and his Dna is in everything (pokemon of course) {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

No noo noo. I meant mew hatched arceus (being the egg and all) and therefor because mew "created" (not realy) arceus' gentic meterial then arceus went to create the rest of the pokemon that genetic meterial caried over and mew never realy did squat... {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

#Mew's descendants are all slightly different, and their descendants are slightly more different, and so on, until there are all of the different species of Pokémon. (This makes Mew the ancestor of all other Pokémon.)

You have to admit, it may be that Arceus created Mew, then Mew created the rest of the Pokémon. At least, that's what it looks like.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:: It's subjects like this that just make you wish you could get Tajiri to do an interview r something...([[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC))

Yeah, only a few people in Sinnoh know about other Legendaries living in their own backyard like Cresselia and Heatran. The book in Canalave City apparently refers to Arceus as the "Original One", meaning that Arceus came before Mew.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Which even then, it's unknown if it actually did create it or if people just lied about it and believed their own propaganda (I mean, it's a MYTH. Myths aren't usually true. In fact, it's extremely unlikely that it is true. I mean, did Zeus create lighting? No, he didn't. Did Poseidon and Apollo create the Trojan wall? No they didn't, as they technically don't exist.). A common rule for Mythology is that it's mostly created from a bunch of falsehoods in a futile attempt to explain what had happened in terms of creation (the Bible doesn't count, as there's been archaeological evidence that the events in the Bible happened exactly as it was described.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

::::::I would say “Please don’t turn this into an IRL religion debate”… but it’s too late for that now. Good grief. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 05:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

::Ok, you know what, let's just stop this thing, and anyone who wishes to continue can take it to my talk page (as it was partially my fault that this started).  Oh, and BTW, the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible and Christianity already confirmed that most of the events (Yes, even the ones where God directly appeared) did already happen, and there was a special in regards to the Moses incident in Egypt. just something that's FYI, as well as my final note in regards to IRL. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't meen to bring up the topic again but im pretty sure it happens like so

Regigigas moves the continents.  

The Sinnoh region is created around Mt. Coronet  

This topic has filled up with wonderful speculation (come on, seriosuly? Arceus's egg becoming Mew?), but it hardly matters because there is no conflict. Please note that NEVER has it ever been said that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon; in a Dex entry it said that was ''believed'' to be true because it contains every Pokémon's DNA. So, Arceus was first, and it created Mew (I would guess) with all of that DNA. Oh, and Myuu, I applaud your history. It's nice. ;) [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Here`s my opinion: It is possible that Mew was the first pokemon created by Arceus, and therefore has the DNA of all the OTHER pokemon. If it had Arceus` DNA, then scientists in the pokemon world would technically know it exists (please excuse any spelling errors)--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 02:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

::That's what I meant. They wouldn't know what pokémon the DNA belongs to, but I'm sure they would know it wasn't any officialy discovered pokémon, or at least not one they know of.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

:First off, Palkia does NOT represent Outer Space. It represents "Space", as in, wormholes, fabrics (Not clothes fabrics, Science fabrics.), "Space/Time Continuum", etc. Secondly, considering how Arceus is listed to be a Pokemon in the Pokedex, not to mention it's data is easily recorded into the Pokedex as well, most likely researchers DO know about Arceus' existance (not just believing, actually knowing it exists and having samples of it's DNA.). So they didn't capture Mew, big whoop. They identified it in the Pokedex, nonetheless. I still think it's Mew who created Arceus, and until they actually clarify what they meant for starting this debate, we still have to think that Arceus was a genetic descendant of Mew, considering Mew's mentions of containing the DNA of Pokemon (Yes, it technically doesn't say "All" in there, but it doesn't say "Some", "Few", "Many", or any of those restrictive nouns either. Plus, using generalizations (Like just saying Pokemon), regardless of whether it actually says "all" or not, usually implies that it's meaning all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but as the pokédex states that "many scientists '''believe''' Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon" and Arceus that it is told/described in '''mythology''', my point being that Mew is scientific theory and Arceus its just a myth that he created the universe, just like Zeus. - AOS

== discovery? ==

who discovered Mew, Team Rocket of Professor Oak? the Official Pokémon Handbook says Oak, but it seems like TR was behind it. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 03:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

==TM lists==

Is it really necessary for list every single TM/HM under [[Mew (Pokémon)#By TM/HM|By TM/HM]]? Why not state that Mew can learn any TM/HM available and link them to the [[TM]] and [[HM]] pages? -[[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]]

But its a much better idea to do what [[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]] said as it wastes much less space [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 22:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[[User:Wikid|Wikid]]

:If that's true, it's a much better idea to combine Caterpie and Metapod's pages with Butterfree's, too, because the first two are USELESS. But we don't. Bulbapedia strives for completeness. Plus, you can just copy/paste Mew's learnset and subtract from it what you need to when adding them to the other Pokémon pages. Plus, think of it this way, you can see the contest stats for all of them, as well as the PP, type, power, damage category, and so on. Can you do that if we were just to put "LOL, EVERYTHING"? Nope.

== Disobediance ==

''"In [[Generation III]] onward, Mew does not obey when found in the wild by use of a [[cheating]] device."''

::Technically this happens only in Generation III. The same is true for a Deoxys caught with a GameShark or other cheating device, but I've only seen it disobey in Gen. 3. Blazevoir 19:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this, please read my comment above, there is no obedience bit in the DS games.  All pokemon that needed the bit in GBA, had it when obtained in a legit fashion. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Umm...How can Mew have a "time to hatch" when afaik it is impossible to get a Mew egg? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

::Exactly, it's the same thing as empty slot Pokémon like Missingno. They exist because game data must be complete. For example, let's say Mew was never coded as having a 'Time to Hatch.' If someone hacked a Mew egg, the game would just die right then and there because it's drawing on nonexistant data. Games like this can't have nulls, they just freeze. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not so sure that when the programmers put "mew gave birth" into the diary, that that's what they literally meant. Couldn't it be more of a metaphor for the fact that after all the hard work the scientists went through, they wrote mew gave birth because the scientists were finally able to successfully clone mew? Although it wasn't stated in the games, in the anime it's mentioned that there were others before Mewtwo that didn't survive the cloning process. So maybe it's possible that they meant the cloning was finally a success rather than mew actually giving birth. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 19:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

::I don't think Mew 'gave birth' in the literal sense, either. I think by that statement it's implying Mew's ''DNA'' birthed Mewtwo. [[User:Wicked Weavile|Wicked Weavile]] 10:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Who knows? Probably there is more than one Mew (which I believe), it wouldn't be the first "legendary" that can be more than one.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== Mew is catchable ==

My friend told me that you could catch Mew by defeating the Elite Four 12 or maybe 20 times ,and it worked for him, and he doesn't have a hacking device. It didn't work for my other friend, though. I did it and that worked, but I'm not sure if I should put it on the article because I am not sure if there's a 50 percent chance of this or something. Can someone please verify this on his/her FireRed/ LeafGreen Version? -Metagross72

::'Many' is a gigantic understatement. OMFGQGB GUYZ!!!! CATCH DEOXYS FROM TEH SPACECENTR!!!11!211! Please spare us the trouble of saying no and just don't believe rumors from [insert friend's or friends' name(s) here]. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no space center Deoxys in Emerald. And if that's what you're saying, please don't get angry; I just misunderstood. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

More like dead since Blue and Red versions. - AOS

== XD Tutor Moves ==

:Done. [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Okay... ==

::Don't get mad, mate. Take it easy. - AOS

==Japanese name==

on the page mew (Pokémon) it states that Mew's japanese name is Mew I'm pretty sure it is Myuu but I might be wrong {{unsigned|MyUU}}

::I don't know that much Japanese but I do know that technically it is Myū, but it's trademarked as Mew and it's easier for non-Japanese speakers to understand what it says. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

When it says that Mew was the first ever trademark, does it mean the Mew was the first Pokemon ever to be created in the franchise? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 23:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

So who was the first Pokemon created as to Togepi of Johto, Kecleon of Hoenn, and Munchlax of Sinnoh? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The trivia states contradictory information right on top of itself:

** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909."

:Oh gosh... my brain hurts now... we need to find the factual dates and fix it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

:::This keeps coming up (in outside contexts), so I'm going to leave this on the talk page in case anyone looking for more information on the trademark looks here:

== Role Play Mew ==

Recently, an edit of mine adding Role Play Mew as an XD Tutor was removed. This post [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1753966&postcount=39 here] shows some testing of XD movesets. People did successfully get a Role Play Mew, but not a Trick Mew. I believe it had been discovered a while ago that Serebii had a mistake, but no one ever bothered to tell him I guess. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 05:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

:::So people testing the game themselves isn't a source? How would I go about proving my side right then? And that article got its source from the same place this one did. So it stands to reason if this one is wrong, than so is this one. (FYI, its usually not a good idea to use a wiki article to prove another is true) [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

::::::Hey now! I respect what he said about testing. I'm not going to edit it again. I'm just going to sit on the sidelines till he proves me right :P. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Any word on this Magnedeth? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

::What about now? Its been a few days and no progress has been posted. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

::::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-w6UsMQ3E [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 14:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I've heard that, in Red and Blue, you can name your starter MEW and it will turn into a Mew.Is this true?--[[User:Frostagin|Frostagin]] 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Initial Design==

Is it notable that (I'm assuming) Mew can learn the most different attacks of any Pokemon? Obviously, since it can learn every TM and HM, that puts it way ahead of the curve. When I say this, I mean learn via TM/Level up/breeding/tutor, not [[sketch]]. --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 01:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Images ==

And where does the imagine at the beginning of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGwOkGs9kc Gotta Catch 'em All! (song)] come from? --[[User:Abcd|Abcd]] 15:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Name trademarks ==

:http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/pirika_poron/akamyuu.png

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

== Contradiction ==

  * Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; ...

     ** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909.

== Pokemon Event at Space Centre Houston ==

It says Mew can learn any move tutor move.  However, it can't learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}} or {{m|Hydro Cannon}}, exclusive to [[Dragon (type)|Dragon-types]] and the final forms of the [[Grass (type)|Grass-]], [[Fire (type)|Fire-]] and [[Water (type)|Water-type]] [[Starter Pokémon|starters]], respectively.  What would be the best way to address this in the article?  [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 07:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

::Okay, I went ahead and changed it.  [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 03:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

==Archive?==

:Yes. [[User:Cool469|Cool469]] 02:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia Wording ==

==A question==

== Question for the "In Side Games" Section  ==

:I had my own question too, Mew can be used as a rental pokemon in Gale of Darkness in "Vs. Battle Mode>>Quick Battle>>>Battle VRS CPU>>>>Ultimate", as well as be fought against in a simulated battle on Battle CD 46 in-game. Should this be mentioned at all in some way?... -[[User:Yourlilemogirl|Yourlilemogirl]] 03:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

== Voice ==

Never does it say that the Mew in movie 8 is different from the Mew in movie 1. They are one in the same unless you can prove otherwise. Since Mew was the first Pokemon it is unique. We have never seen more than one together and hence we must go with what's given to us and that's Mew is a single Pokemon with no others of it's species. We must change things to reflect this. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 05:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm no. Mew has been specifically stated to be the 1st Pokemon and one of a kind in several sources. Ergo there is only one. Mewtwo was a clone of Mew. THE MEW. Hence only one exists. Legendary's are supposed to be one of a kind unless later disproven. Mew is ONE UNIQUE Pokemon. More sources and media points to One Mew than two seperate Mews. We need to change all of the Pages Mew is one to unify them. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 09:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm correct me if Ima wrong but didn't Ash change voice actors? And since when does the voice acting matter in the characters themselves? And even though Games=anime that doesn't rule out that MORE games point to the same conclusion than the fewer anime canon sources. And your forgetting official handbooks and pokedexes that have been released over the years. All pointing out that Mew is unique. Hence once more there is no real proof that these Mew are different. In fact it's MORE likely they are the same once you see that Movie 8 own plot. Mew is at the tree because it's in danger. That's it. Movie 1 no danger so Mew can move around as it pleases. It makes sense and keeps with MAJORITY canon. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 11:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

::A different actor doesn't mean the character is different... it's quite common to switch actors in movies and stuff.  Like, there have been several different actors who have played James Bond and several different actors who have played Bruce Wayne, etc., and these are always portraying the same character (in other words, there aren't multiple British agents named "James Bond" with the number 007 or multiple millionaires living in Gotham going by the name "Bruce Wayne").  Yes, I admit that it's odd that a new actor would be used when the old actor who is capable of playing Mew is working on the same movie, but that still doesn't necesarily make them different characters.  That being said, I do think that they are separate.  The Mew in the eighth movie used Transform -- an attack that the Mew in the first movie was never shown to have.  Perhaps this is because Mew had no reason to Transform in the first movie, but I find it more likely that it's because she was unable to... and Transform is learned at a low level so there's no way she could have just learned it between the two movies.  I haven't seen enough of the eighth movie to have any more of an opinion on it, but I think that one detail is enough.  Also, it is certainly possible that there could be two Mews in the anime... unlike the games, the legendary Pokémon in the anime are not "one of a kind" (well, not all of them anyway). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew to Ditto comparison==

It says that Mew and Ditto are the same colour... this is false.  Ditto is Purple.  I don't have a Mew in my Pokédex but I'm assuming she's Pink.  I'm not editing it in case I read it wrong or something and it means something else, but someone should look into this (either correct it if it's wrong or clarify it because it doesn't make much sense). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 23:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew first being made vs. the trademark==

==Mew giving birth==

Maybe it layed an egg? ----[[User:DHP613|<span style="color:#337AFF">'''D'''</span><span style="color:#337AFF">HP</span>]][[User talk:DHP613|<span style="color:#7E7E7E">'''6'''</span><span style="color:#7E7E7E">13</span>]] 23:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)