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Oh, and we can get another opinion. I had a talk with FinnishPokéFan92 about Steel Beam a while ago, where I learned why Steel Beam is not considered a recoil move. I don't think we can come to a conclusion on our own, to be honest) Different view of the situation would be helpful, wouldn't it? Or just one decisive blow.  [[User:Itan|Itan]] ([[User talk:Itan|talk]]) 17:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh, and we can get another opinion. I had a talk with FinnishPokéFan92 about Steel Beam a while ago, where I learned why Steel Beam is not considered a recoil move. I don't think we can come to a conclusion on our own, to be honest) Different view of the situation would be helpful, wouldn't it? Or just one decisive blow.  [[User:Itan|Itan]] ([[User talk:Itan|talk]]) 17:29, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
:Just so we're clear, it's like.. ''of course'' it's not ''that'' recoil. I don't dispute that at all. It's not recoil as in.. the standard recoil (Take Down etc.). I think it was probably me who removed the word "recoil" from Mind Blow's page even before the game was out!?
:But that doesn't mean it's not.. recoil. There's no definition of what recoil is. It's a bunch of moves that act the same (standard recoil), plus Struggle and some weird moves that act differently, for some weird reason. I don't think "we" (the community) define what recoil is, but rather Game Freak does, for example via messages (as you pointed out). Steel Beam works more like Struggle than Take Down; as I said, what if the in-game description added "by recoil" in the next game..?
:About "twisting the logic", you're probably right in what you're saying, maybe I was trying to argue too hard haha. But anyway, it's not intrinsically tied, there's no reason the logical relation that's true right now needs to be true forever.
:Yeah of course, feel free to seek other opinions (some public talk page?), or just suggest alternate wordings I could better relate to. You probably agree, this isn't really important enough for an eternal discussion. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:57, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


== Stadium 2 ==
== Stadium 2 ==