Bulbapedia talk:Project Sidegames: Difference between revisions

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:::::Considering Masters is a very story based game, I'd feel that this would be relevant to the pages, particularly as characters may sometimes gain more character development than their canon main game counterpart. You'd need to make sure it doesn't just become a list of events that they featured in written in prose. The length of Paulo's section is ok as he is a main rival and original character in these games. However, I don't feel the character sections for the others should be as long.[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(talk)'''</sub>]] 07:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::Considering Masters is a very story based game, I'd feel that this would be relevant to the pages, particularly as characters may sometimes gain more character development than their canon main game counterpart. You'd need to make sure it doesn't just become a list of events that they featured in written in prose. The length of Paulo's section is ok as he is a main rival and original character in these games. However, I don't feel the character sections for the others should be as long.[[User:Wowy|<span style="color:#AAAAFF">'''Wowy'''</span>]][[User talk:Wowy|<sub style="color:#B69E00;">'''(talk)'''</sub>]] 07:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::Some characters like Brock and Misty have so much story that adding all of their stuff would be way too much. I'm not really sure about this, though it could be my personal difficulty for accepting big, sudden changes coming through. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:38, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::Some characters like Brock and Misty have so much story that adding all of their stuff would be way too much. I'm not really sure about this, though it could be my personal difficulty for accepting big, sudden changes coming through. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:38, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
== Articles from Contributing Writers and UNITE ==
We need to think about/rethink source priority, because we have a critical problem. Currently, invisible policy says articles from Pokemon.com written by contributing writers are given the absolute lowest tier of authority. Basically, they are wrong unless proven right by something else. I dislike it, I think it's dumb, but that's not the deal. No the deal is that certain terms to use for Pokémon UNITE are only provided from those kinds of articles, to the point where saying they "no way, no how, cannot count" is paramount to making them impossible to write and difficult to read. Where does the term "objective Pokémon" come from? [https://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-unite-theia-sky-ruins-overview Those] [https://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-unite-strategy-wild-pokemon-battle-tactics-in-5-on-5-battles articles]. (I think "boss" only exists in terms of PvE battles and doesn't apply to regular battles, so that's out.) How about the "Pit", used for that area in the Central Area where an objective Pokémon appears? [https://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-unite-theia-sky-ruins-overview Also from those articles], and writing around it gets difficult once you realize there are three different layers of Central Area and none of them are named. As far as I can determine, no location in UNITE actually calls moves physical or special. No, all we have is [https://www.pokemon.com/us/strategy/pokemon-unite-strategy-held-items-and-suggested-builds this article] saying damage can be "Attack damage" and "Sp. Atk damage". (I'm loathe to go and plug one games terms into another game just because the other game's terms sound funny. That's full on slippery slope territory based on what people consider goofy/incorrect or not. Also, technically Bulbapedia says each Pokémon has a damage type, so it would appear that "Attack damage" is derived from "damage type")
I think there needs to be a policy about determining what happens when the only name for a concept is from a "source of low priority". I think that such a policy should allow the low priority source to be considered "true", because there comes a point where denying terms just makes things less readable. I would very much appreciate only having to say, "Outer portion of Central Area", "Inner Portion of Central Area", and "Pit", rather than the unholy concoction of "Outermost Portion of Central Area", "Middle Portion of Central Area", and "Innermost Portion of Central Area". Using the shorthand that exist makes it easier to read and easier to draw out the picture of the area in your head from the text. It allows for distinguishing what classes of Pokémon exist, and it makes so that we have fewer unknown names running around. It also makes it so that people searching for terms they think are true (because why would the official website lie to them) can actually find the pages.
Notably, this little issue prevents the wild Pokémon article for UNITE from being written until resolved because it affects how that is sectioned, so there's that. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 16:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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